The varṇāśrama college is required to train people who is able to become a brahmin who is able to become a kṣatriya, who is able to become . . . in this way division must be. And according to the quality and work there must be division for cooperation. There is a big scheme. They have lost. They do not know. All bhangis, camara, śūdras, they are simply given vote. That's all. Where is the training?
Hari-śauri: But what is the use of having big strong body if now they're using airplanes and tanks and guns?
Prabhupāda: That is your useless waste of time. Why? Therefore the war does not stop, unnecessary war. And such a big war, Kurukṣetra, in eighteen days it is finished. This is . . . and this is going on, continually war, strain, politics, diplomacy, lecture, parliament. There is no finishing of war. There is no finishing. It will go on. Just like same example: if you keep the dogs as dogs, they'll going on barking. It will never finish. So this is the civilization of dog work. It is not human civilization. Therefore it is going on. War is not stopped. Where is stop? War is stopped? No. Going on. And it will go on, because they are dogs. You cannot stop their barking. There are so many things. If we follow the instruction of Bhagavad-gītā, then whole world will be . . . this is a fact. Now, how to implement it, that is another thing. But it is a fact.
Hari-śauri: Yes because even the yavanas and mlecchas were following the kṣatriya system in Kṛṣṇa's time. Just like Jarāsandha was, he had all the chivalrous respect of a kṣatriya, even though he was a demon. But nowadays everybody's . . . no one is . . .
Prabhupāda: Everybody's śūdra. Nobody's brāhmaṇa, nobody's . . .
Hari-śauri: No.
Prabhupāda: Śūdra is to be controlled only. They are never given to be freedom. Just like in America: the blacks were slaves; they were under control. And since we have given them equal rights, they are disturbing, most disturbing, always creating a fearful situation, uncultured and drunkards. What training they have got? They have got equal right? That is best, to keep them under control as slaves but give them sufficient food, sufficient cloth, not more than that. Then they will be satisfied.