Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: If the moon is illuminating, why can we only see half of the moon?
Prabhupāda: They say there is half of the illuminating.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes, because it's reflected from the sun.
Prabhupāda: The shadow, then there is shadow. It is being shadowed.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: If it's reflection.
Prabhupāda: No, reflection we do not accept.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It's illuminating.
Prabhupāda: It is Illuminating.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Giving off light.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So then why is it that we can only see half of the moon, then?
Pañca-draviḍa: Half moon.
Prabhupāda: About these movements, my position is different. My position is.... There is two movements, a sun movement and the whole planetary system movement. So according to the movement.... That is explained in the Bhāgavatam.
Pañca-draviḍa: Why is it sometimes there's only quarter moon, no moon, half moon, full moon?
Prabhupāda: The same explanation. On the whole, we have to accept that something wonderful is going on. And that is Kṛṣṇa's arrangement.
Prabhupāda: You cannot explain. You, you rascal scientists, from so much distant, you have calculated, "This is thi..." This is all wrong. Yasyājñayā bhramati sambhṛta-kāla-cakraḥ. They are carrying order of Kṛṣṇa, not your order. Yasyājñayā. "By the order of Govinda," not your order. Yasyājñayā bhramati sambhṛta-kāla-cakraḥ.
Pañca-draviḍa: (break) "There may be a God, but all these stories..."
Prabhupāda: "There may be." That is rascaldom.
Pañca-draviḍa: All these stories about Him...
Prabhupāda: Anyone who says "maybe," he's not scientist. He's a rascal. Then why shall I hear him? Rascal. Why shall I waste my time? I am not going to waste my time to hear a rascal. How can I? I have got value of my time. As soon as he says "Maybe there is God," he's a rascal.
Pañca-draviḍa: Then, if he says...
Prabhupāda: Now, just like if somebody says, "Maybe there is a president," he's a rascal. He does not know what is the history, what is the constitution. He does not know. So why a gentleman should waste a time with such a rascal who says, "There may be a president"? Immediately he becomes a rascal.
Pañca-draviḍa: Then he says, "There is a God, but all these stories about Him and His activities, they are just imaginations."
Prabhupāda: That's right. You do not know what is God, after all. "There may be." Then who is going to hear you? You do not know. Your statement is also another story.
Pañca-draviḍa: I am not a scientist.
Prabhupāda: No, no. The scientists, if they say "There may be God," that means he's a rascal. Scientist means, whatever he will say, that is accurate. That is scientist. What is the difference between a layman and scientist? That is the difference. The scientist will say what is actual fact. That is scientist.
Pañca-draviḍa: They only accept...
Prabhupāda: That is not scientist, that he..., "maybe, perhaps..." That is not scientist.
Pañca-draviḍa: Well, they only accept what they can confirm by experimentation.
Prabhupāda: That means their experiment is not perfect. Their observation is not perfect-vague idea. So how he can become a scientist? That is no scientist.
Pañca-draviḍa: What is the position of one who accepts God, that there is.... (break) (end)