Prabhupāda: If he does not read Bhāgavatam, then he remains a rascal.
Hari-śauri: Anything apart from the Vedas is not really knowledge.
Prabhupāda: No. May be some fragmental knowledge, but if one wants full knowledge in life, then he must read Bhāgavatam. Bhagavad-gītā is the preliminary ABCD, and then let him read Bhāgavatam. (break) . . . venture, newspaper. (break) They have been taught like that. Andhā yathāndhaiḥ (SB 7.5.31). They are passing as great leader for giving men wrong direction and spoil the life. He cannot save himself, and he can spoil himself very nicely.
Hari-śauri: People's minds are so flickering. There's so much disturbance.
Prabhupāda: The mind is the first creation for material enjoyment. From the mind, senses are created: five senses for knowledge-gathering and five senses for working, and five airs within the body. In this way the mind and fifteen. This is called ṣoḍāśa upacāra, sixteen. And then the ingredients, pañca-mahā-bhūta. Then intelligence, ahaṅkāra, false ego. These twenty-four, combination. And ātmā, jīva, and then Kṛṣṇa—twenty-six. The twenty-six combination is this body, mind, self, soul, Supersoul, everything.