Prabhupāda: All of them are South African?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No, actually, he's from South Africa and he's from South Africa. These two devotees are going down for the first time, and Jagat-guru was preaching there once before.
Prabhupāda: So they will get visa?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They don't require visa except for Jagat-guru. He's British, he's Canadian. He's South African boy. He's South African.
Prabhupāda: Oh, they don't require visa.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Only Jagat-guru dāsa, American.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So he'll get visa?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: So all five, you are going?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Now, we have studied this South Africa. They like our movement. And they are purchasing books. That is very good sign. Is it not? They are purchasing? Who are purchasing books? Educated circle?
Devotee (1): Colleges.
Prabhupāda: College. That is . . . college, universities, that is educated. So I was surprised when, after my meeting, they purchased books, because these South African white men, they do not like very much Indians. Is it not?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It's a fact.
Prabhupāda: But still, they like this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is very good sign.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Even the Indians are attracted to our Indian culture.
Prabhupāda: They lost their culture.
Jagat-guru: Śrīla Prabhupāda, we were thinking that this is 1976, and in July there is Ratha-yātrā. So by next year, '77, we hope to be able to have Ratha-yātrā in Durban. There may be a quarter of a million, half a million Indian people. One cart and three deities on one cart.
Prabhupāda: And whether government will allow?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I think so. They already have permission.
Jagat-guru: They can give permission, will do probably. And also we want to establish also, apart from the temple, one bus program which will reach all the towns and villages there in South Africa.
Prabhupāda: Very good.