Prabhupāda: That is the difficulty. Our knowledge . . . yad yad ācarati śreṣṭhaḥ. So who can be more śreṣṭha than Kṛṣṇa, than Vyāsadeva, Nārada, the ācāryas? But they will not follow. They will manufacture some idea. That is the difficulty in India at the present moment. Some upstart leaders, they have misled them. That is the difficulty. And we are poor fellow. If we say the right thing, they'll not take it.
Guest (1): (laughing) Not only take it but they'll ridicule and say that something has gone wrong somewhere.
Prabhupāda: They'll not take it: "Eh! What is this Swāmījī . . .? Mahatma Gandhi says this and this . . . tilak says this, this, that." And if we say that they are wrong, then people will criticize, "Oh, he has become more than." This is the difficulty. We don't say anything except what is said by the great personalities that are Kṛṣṇa conscious. So I am not saying anything of my own manufacture. I am simply saying what Kṛṣṇa has said. But they will reject that. I say that Kṛṣṇa says that you become a Kṛṣṇa's devotee. It is very simple for me. And they will say: "Huh! What is this nonsense Kṛṣṇa? We have seen this Kṛṣṇa. Now we have got this leader." This is the problem. Upadeṣo hi mūrkhāṇāṁ prakopāya na śāntaye (Nīti Śāstra). Agar moorkh ko upadesh diya jaye to wo gussa ho jayega. If advice is given to a foolish person then he will get angry.
Guest (2): They reject it because they find it difficult to . . .
Prabhupāda: No, it is not at all difficulty. What is the difficulty?
Guest (2): So then why do they reject it?
Prabhupāda: If I say that, "Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa," where is the difficulty? But he thinks that, "This is insignificant." He thinks like that.
Guest (1): Swāmījī says very correctly. He says, you see, that key word . . .
Prabhupāda: What I am teaching these people?
Guest (1): Very simple thing.
Prabhupāda: Very simple thing, "Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa." I have not given them any bribe. I have not shown them any magic of gold manufacturing. From the very beginning I said: "You chant Hare Kṛṣṇa." But that is becoming fruitful.
Guest (1): That gives them peace of mind, because their mind gets attuned to something that is good.
Prabhupāda: But that they will not take.
Guest (2): That they will not take for what reason?
Prabhupāda: Reason is, "This is cheap. The Swāmī is giving something cheap." Nowadays it has become a fashion, "Meditation." What nonsense meditation he will do? This is going on. He cannot take cheap thing.
Guest (1): Cheap thing may be the right thing, the true thing, but "Because it's cheap," (laughter) "so we . . . not to be bothered."
Prabhupāda: In Europe, America, the Indian students, they say: "Oh, we have seen all this Hare Kṛṣṇa. We now want technology."
Guest (1): Sir, I got into conversation this young man in Colombo for the simple reason that I have got five sons, and those sons are trying to be Westernized or Americanized to the extent that I couldn't believe that my own children would go to this extent. So I told Girirāja when he came to see me and introduced my children to them, and it has now little impact. Because now that . . .
Prabhupāda: (aside) Don't sit down there. Don't sit down there. Hamara (our) . . . no, sitting on the . . .
Guest (1): Wahan mat baitho, chalo humlog ke saath. Don't sit there, you come along with us. You move with us.
Prabhupāda: She is the daughter of Mr. Dani.