Svarūpa Dāmodara: First of all I did not believe astrology in the beginning. I thought it was a pseudo science.
Prabhupāda: No, you may think, but what is the opinion of the scientist?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, scientists would say that there is no background.
Prabhupāda: So how it so happens?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Because they say something which cannot be proved by experimental science, that does not work, calling science.
Prabhupāda: So then how do you say that life is from matter? That cannot be proved by experiment.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is why they are going to prove it. They are trying to prove it.
Prabhupāda: Then again, "Going to prove." They cannot prove, they'll not not admit it.
Sujit: See, astrology, I think, what he said is half true. Astrology is a science, but it is not an exact science like mathematics and chemistry.
Prabhupāda: No. No, it is mathematics. Astrology is simply based on mathematics. Exactly.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: To calculate the planetary . . .
Prabhupāda: Just see. The comet . . .
Sujit: It is from astronomy.
Prabhupāda: Astronomy, yes. Astrology is the part of astronomy. Yes.
Sujit: It's part of the science. It has been accepted as part of the science.
Prabhupāda: No, it is . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Astrological science is mostly speculative theory.
Prabhupāda: Astronomy also.
Sujit: They are proving a lot of things. They are calculating when a certain star can be in certain positions.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No, that can be done.
Sujit: Yes, it's being done.
Prabhupāda: So our astrology is calculated by the position of the stars.
Sujit: That's true, but as far as . . .
Prabhupāda: By astronomy you calculate the position of the star, and they know, "If the star is in such-and-such position, the result will be like this." That is astrology.