Prabhupāda: So it is better. Just like one man said that "I have lost fifty thousand this year." His friend said, "You are still fortunate, because you had fifty thousand. But I have no fifty paisa even."
Keśavalāl Trivedi: So there is something. Here nothing.
Prabhupāda: "So you are so fortunate that you could suffer the loss of fifty thousand, but I have nothing to lose."
Keśavalāl Trivedi: But that is for a discriminating man. Here it is an ignorance, asūyā, envy. When Acyutānanda Swami was addressing one man, said, "Why always have Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa? We can have Hare Christ also." Same answer as Your Holiness gave, he said, "Yes, yes, you can have it. Whoever says . . .? We don't say no. It is also possible, but degree, matter of degree," as Your Holiness the other day put it. And some chapters and words were read out to the people. They were convinced that same saṅkīrtana is also sanctioned in the Bible.
Prabhupāda: We have to follow Caitanya Mahāprabhu or you? Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ (CC Adi 17.31). So we have to follow Caitanya Mahāprabhu. What is this building?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is a tuberculosis hospital.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Devotee (2): Prabhupāda, they said that if Caitanya Mahāprabhu wanted Kṛṣṇa consciousness in the Western countries, why didn't He go there Himself? That's what they told us.
Prabhupāda: So He left the credit for me. (laughter)
Devotees: Jaya! Haribol!
Prabhupāda: He loves His devotee more than Himself.
Harikeśa: Why didn't Kṛṣṇa kill everybody at the Battle of Kurukṣetra?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yaśodānandana: . . . (indistinct) . . .
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa, by His simple desire He could kill. (laughter) He said therefore, bhaviṣyatvam. Pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma, sarvatra pracāra haibe (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126). He is leaving the task for somebody else.
Keśavalāl Trivedi: (break) . . .Caitanya-caritāmṛta, all these things, Swāmījī has brought out very vividly. I have read only introduction and some portion only. But what Caitanya Mahāprabhu had ordered and ordained, is taking place. It is very vividly brought out. (break) . . .behind using the machinery, cars, airplanes, other things also, I think very convincing, Swāmījī, when you say that they are meant only for Kṛṣṇa's service, and if it is dedicated for that, it is used; otherwise it is misused, abused.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. That is bhakti. Just like you are walking; some money falls down from your pocket. Then you forgot. And somebody, "Oh, here is some money"; he takes it. And somebody takes it but offers to you. Who is the better man?
Keśavalāl Trivedi: The person offering.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That who takes it and puts in the pocket, he is a thief. And who takes it and offers to you, he is sincere friend.
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Very fine analogy.
Prabhupāda: So we can use everything only for Kṛṣṇa. And therefore we are friend to Kṛṣṇa, and you are thief. Kṛṣṇa's property you are using unauthorizedly. Therefore you are a thief.
Devotee (3): The Christians say that God has given us certain things to enjoy, for instance. Just like I was talking to one Christian about eating meat, and he said, "Well, I enjoy eating meat."
Prabhupāda: So the tiger will say he will enjoy you. Why do you protest against the tiger?
Acyutānanda: In the Bible it says that everything was for the enjoyment of man. "Man is sovereign over the animals."
Prabhupāda: Enjoyment does not mean that you kill him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Enjoy means protection. It means protecting, not eating.
Prabhupāda: Go-rakṣya. You protect the cows and take the best food in the world, milk. That is enjoyment. Not foolishly to eat the cow.