Mike Robinson: I see. Can you tell me how you feel led, you know, how you are guided to do what you do?
Prabhupāda: Well, there are the books, just like I also told you, the literature.
Mike Robinson: So it's from your scriptures that you've learned that you've got to do this.
Prabhupāda: Yes, we have got so many literatures. We are explaining in English. Guide is . . . it is not manufactured. The guide is from the beginning. Simply one has to take that guidance, then everything's all right. And if we manufacture guidance, then is spoiled. Just like in the literature of this microphone you say that this should be like this, this should be like this, number two should be by the side of number four. You cannot make any change. Then it is spoiled.
Mike Robinson: Now we've talked for some time concerning spiritual matters and the philosophy of Hare Kṛṣṇa. How does it affect the way people live?
Prabhupāda: Yes, because he's suffering for want of this knowledge. He's misunderstanding himself that he is the body. Suppose if you misunderstand that you are coat and shirt, and so you sew and wash the coat and shirt. Will you be happy? Will you be happy?
Mike Robinson: No, I won't.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So similarly all these rascals, they are simply washing the coat and shirt. They have no information that what is there within the coat and shirt. They have no information. Ask anybody. All rascals will say: "Yes, I am Englishman, I am this coat," that's all. "I am thinking like an Englishman." That shirt. And what you are, he cannot say. You are thinking—that is your mind. You are having this body, that is your body, but what you are? Who is thinking over this? Nobody.
Mike Robinson: So by understanding the Kṛṣṇa . . .
Prabhupāda: Misunderstanding. The whole civilization, the modern civilization, is going on misunderstanding. Dehātma-buddhiḥ—just like cats and dogs. Suppose if you become very proud, "I am Englishman. Why you have come here?" As the dogs bark, "Row! Row! Why you have come here?" So where is the difference? What is the difference? He's thinking "I am dog," you are thinking "Englishman," I am thinking "Indian." There is no difference. So if we keep people in darkness of dog's mentality, and declare we are advanced in civilization, most misguiding.
Mike Robinson: I see. And so when people are taught, they will then understand. But what I'd also like to know is how would it affect the way they live? In sort of purely . . . the way they go about their life.
Prabhupāda: You see they are living, these boys are living. It is not very difficult. They are not dying; they are living.
Mike Robinson: Yes, I accept that completely, but I want to know what differences, if you could tell me basically, what differences it makes to their life.
Prabhupāda: Difference is that if you accept this mode of life, it is very simplified, and no botheration, and you make your spiritual progress very easily. If you take otherwise, then it is difficult.