Prabhupāda: You economically prove that Kṛṣṇa consciousness is simple and inexpensive life.
Devotees: Yes, jaya, mercy.
Prabhupāda: Food, diet, living condition, healthy, hygienic, everything. You prove that this is the best way of life. That's a fact. From all sides, prove that Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is essential for the human society, to make them happy in this and the next life. That is a fact.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Prabhupāda? Today I want to discuss about the manifestation of the matter from pradhāna. Now Lord Kapiladeva describes that pradhāna is the undifferentiated sum total of material elements.
Prabhupāda: Mahat-tattva?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No, pradhāna. Then from pradhāna, by the action of time this mahat-tattva is generated. Now we were a little confused about that. He said by the impregnation of the Lord's internal potency there is hiraṇmaya, is produced within mahat-tattva, and this hiraṇmaya is self-effulgent.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: It's effulgent.
Prabhupāda: Hiraṇmaya?
Hari-śauri: Effulgent.
Prabhupāda: Oh, effulgent, yes.