Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Everything is just like in America in Bombay. You know, the temple program is right on time, very nicely . . .
Prabhupāda: That is wanted. If we keep our temple program nicely and we follow the rules and regu . . . then we are triumphant. There is no doubt. That is our main strength.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. That is going on very strictly in Bombay.
Prabhupāda: Everywhere this should be going. Then we are safe.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Gopāla Kṛṣṇa had something wrong with his foot, had some foot . . .
Brahmānanda: He had an operation. Small, minor.
Prabhupāda: Boil? Something?
Brahmānanda: We don't know what it is.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Something like a boil. So he was sitting most of the time.
Prabhupāda: Now I have advised the books in the schools, colleges, our Hindi, Bengali, English. We can put in every school. I was instructing . . .
Devotee: Māyāpur town?
Prabhupāda: Everywhere, all over the world. It will be a revolution from godlessness to understanding of God. That is wanted. Otherwise the whole human society is suffering. Harāv abhaktasya kuto (SB 5.18.12). This advancement of so-called education has no value. It is very risky. They do not know how the nature's law is working. Rascals. They're taking this short duration of life, māyā-sukhāya bharam udvahato vimūḍhān (SB 7.9.43), making big, big plans, forgetting they're completely under the control of nature. A very risky civilization. A living being gets the opportunity to understand all the secrets of nature's path, but he's denied the opportunity. Very dangerous. He's thinking like animal—eating, sleeping, that's all. And big, big educationist, and in . . . like Professor Kotovsky, he said: "Swāmījī, after this body is finished, everything is . . ." Just see.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No intelligence. (break)
Prabhupāda: Anyone who has understood the value of Hare Kṛṣṇa, he's saved. We should not simply keep ourselves saved. We should think for others. That is para-upakāra. That you cannot do unless you are in the safe position. Janma sārthaka kari'. If you become polluted, then you cannot do. That is the secret. If you are not polluted, then you can do. Otherwise it will be show only, no effect. This is the secret. Janma sārthaka kari' kara para-upakāra (CC Adi 9.41). So things are very easy, not at all difficult. If you follow, then you can do good to others.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This process gives one the strength to carry it forward more and more.
Prabhupāda: Āpani ācari' prabhu jīve śikhāilā. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He did so. The whole human civilization is on a risky platform.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't see how the, I don't see how the present civilization can stand up against our devotees if we remain strong.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. It cannot. Prahlāda Mahārāja . . . such a gigantic demon could not do anything. He was five-years-old boy, was sticking to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's all. Only that strength, and he faced the dangerous position of a gigantic demon like Hiraṇyakaśipu. Even the demigods were afraid. So remain like Prahlāda Mahārāja, pure. Nobody can do anything. Hare Kṛṣṇa. So take rest and . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya. Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.Prabhupāda: Hare . . . (break) (end)