Prabhupāda: Matter is supreme. Then why the matter does not move independently?
Kṛṣṇa-caitanya: That they have no answer.
Prabhupāda: Then? Then another rascal. If matter is supreme, why don't you combine matter and let it move. So what is that supreme which is moving this matter? If they do not know, then again a rascal, in spite of so much philosophy and so much Communism. Why, when Stalin and Lenin died, they simply remained matter? Why it was not moving? Where is that matter?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That they are working on.
Prabhupāda: Again the same rascal. Again another rascal. They are working; therefore we must be satisfied. Postdated check. How you say all these things?
Harikeśa: Well, their philosophy is just a social philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, it is not perfect.
Harikeśa: They say: "From everybody according to their means, and to everybody according to their needs." As you work . . .
Prabhupāda: Then why there are so many enemies? Why the Americans do not like them, Chinese do not like them?
Devotee (3): Now they write in the mod . . . I see in the modern textbook in the Delhi schools. They make counterproposal. They said, "Because the Indian philosophy is not so perfect, India has become economically backwards on account of following the . . ."
Prabhupāda: What economical backwards?
Devotee (3): They say India is very poor country.
Prabhupāda: No. Indians economical backwards because they have given up their own culture. When India was actually standing on the old culture, they were never defeated. Even the Muhammadans, they ruled over India for eight hundred years, but they could not defeat the Indian culture. But the British government are clever. They spoiled the Indian culture. Therefore they are poverty-stricken. Otherwise, if India would have continued in his own culture . . . the Gandhi started the boycott movement. So Indian culture automatically boycotted anything foreign. We know in our childhood nothing foreign-made could be used in some ceremony. Even this cloth, it must be country-made, that, what is called?
Haṁsadūta: Khādi.
Prabhupāda: Khādi, yes. No mill-made cloth can be used. That was Indian culture. They would not touch even foreign medicine. Dr. Bose, Kartik Chandra Bose, he told me that "You do not know how much we had to flatter to accept this British medicine." They would not touch quinine, anything foreign-made. This was Indian culture.