A person who is imbibed with asuric tendency . . . Asuric tendency means to refute the Supreme Personality of Godhead. All the asuras . . . Just like Rāvaṇa. Rāvaṇa is described as rākṣasa, asura. What was his fault? His fault was that he did not care for Rāma. "What is this Rāma? Kidnap his wife, bring him (her), I shall enjoy." This is rākṣasa. So he could not enjoy Sītā, but the result was, with his whole family, state, and himself, everything was ruined. This is asura. So those who are āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ, followers of Rāvaṇa, Hiraṇyakaśipu, Kaṁsa, they do not surrender to Kṛṣṇa.
- na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ
- prapadyante narādhamāḥ
- māyayāpahṛta-jñānā
- āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ
- (BG 7.15)
So our simple method is to see whether somebody is speaking about Kṛṣṇa or what Kṛṣṇa has said. If he does not do so, then immediately accept him āsuri bhāvam āśritāḥ, a rākṣasa. How you can accept him as guru, a rākṣasa? That is your mistake. How can you accept a person as guru who has imbibed with rākṣasa-. . . (indistinct) . . .. So then what is their position? Duṣkṛtinaḥ, very sinful. Mūḍhaḥ, rascal, ass. Narādhamaḥ, lowest of the mankind. "No, he's so educated." Māyayāpahṛta-jñānaḥ. His so-called education has no value, because māyā has taken away the essence of . . . Because education means . . . Veda means knowledge. So the Vedas are there for education. So vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ (BG 15.15). Ultimately Vedānta, Vedānta means the ultimate knowledge, the end of knowledge. The end of knowledge is to know Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ. So after studying Vedas, if he does not understand Kṛṣṇa, then it is to be understood, māyayāpahṛta-jñānaḥ: his knowledge has been taken away by māyā. So simple thing is that Kṛṣṇa is the original guru. Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya (BG 7.7). There is no more better guru than Kṛṣṇa. So anyone who repeats the words of Kṛṣṇa, teach others, he is guru. Otherwise he's a rascal. Yes?
Indian Guest: (indistinct question regarding Mahābhārata and Bhagavad-gītā)
Prabhupāda: Why do you ask this question? That means you have no faith.
Indian Guest: I have faith. I don't have knowledge.
Prabhupāda: You read this, then you'll get the knowledge.
Indian Guest: I would like to know about what time . . . (indistinct) . . ..
Prabhupāda: Time, it may be any time, but the knowledge is eternal. Just like Kṛṣṇa spoke five thousand years ago to Arjuna and some forty millions of years ago to the sun god. So time is different. Once He spoke forty millions of . . . Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam. (aside:) Find out this verse:
- imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ
- proktavān aham avyayam
- vivasvān manave prāha
- manur ikṣvākave 'bravīt
- (BG 4.1)
Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ (BG 4.2). These things are there, that Kṛṣṇa said to Arjuna that "This philosophy, yoga, the yoga system, bhakti-yoga, I spoke to Vivasvān, the sun god." So if you take, take calculation . . . Because it is said there: vivasvān manave prāha. If you take calculation of Manu, then you can calculate the age of Manus seventy-two cycle of four ages. Four ages means . . . one age means forty-three lakhs of years, multiply it by seventy-two. That becomes the duration of life of one Manu. So it is said that the sun god said to Manu. So this is the age of Vaivasvata Manu. So you can understand when it was spoken. So we have calculated, it is about forty millions of years ago he spoke this.