Hari-śauri: If you can still have sex when you're seventy-five, then you're a great man. Glorified.
Prabhupāda: Just see. This is their civilization. In Paris there are so many clubs. The old men, they first of all pay fifty dollars to enter into the club. Then he selects which vagina he will lick up. Then another payment. I know that. (aside:) No, he can be asked to sit down there.
Hari-śauri: To sit in the room.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Actually this is the fact. But they are fools. They still like to lick up new vagina. Exactly dogs. We are restricting, that "Give up this business, licking of vagina," and they are seeking up to the point of death another vagina, another vagina, another . . . Which is better? If we say that "Give up this nonsense business," is that brainwash? And if it is brainwash, it is for good. What is this civilization, who is never satisfied? The same business is going on up to the point of death. Our civilization is: "All right, you are attached to vagina-licking. Do it up to fifty years. Then give it up." This is our civilization. "You are so much accustomed to the vagina-licking business—up to fifty years, so long you are young. Then give it . . . Don't do it anymore." This is our civilization. And that also, after twenty-five years. For twenty-five years teach him, "It is no good business. Brahmacārī. Remain alone. You have got so much botheration." If he's still unable: "All right, take one wife. Be satisfied. Lick up one. And then, at the age of fifty years, give up." This is our . . . Is that wrong?
Satsvarūpa: It's good.
Hari-śauri: It's great.
Prabhupāda: Because unless you give up this business of vagina-licking, you'll have to be entangled in this body. Either as a dog or as a hog, as a human being or as a demigod, as a tree, as an insect, it will go on. In this way plead. Let the people understand what we are preaching. Advance this philosophy, widely discussed. Then our success.
Hari-śauri: There's no question this will be widely discussed.
Prabhupāda: And . . . (someone enters) (Bengali) (break) . . . smelling the aroma, such a nonsense.
Hari-śauri: As you say, just like dogs.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Just like the dogs.
Prabhupāda: Dogs and all animals, smelling the vagina. They think, "Here is real pleasure."
Hari-śauri: (beginning massage) There's no need to move around, Śrīla Prabhupāda . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: They're going for vagina and paying heavy toll: fifty dollars for entering the club, then two hundred dollars for drinking. You know this?
Hari-śauri: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: This is their civilization, vagina civilization. In Florida they go, Miami, to spend money weekly, five hundred, five thousand dollars for naked dance. You know that?
Hari-śauri: Yes. So many places. Las Vegas. Every big city has . . .
Prabhupāda: And Brahmānanda told me sometimes they see on the stage a fatty woman having sex with an ass. This is exhibited in Mexico. And they enjoy it.
Hari-śauri: In Europe they have sex fairs.
Prabhupāda: Sex fair? What is that?
Hari-śauri: Well, you can go, and they have sideshows, men and women having sex on the stage at regular intervals, and they exhibit all kinds of contraptions that you can use to pervert your sex life even more.