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Do you agree with that, Prabhupada? Isn't it? Prabhupada, Prabhupada? Do you agree with that, though, that it was not necessary to, say chant continually out in a doctor's surgery or...?

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

No. No, we should generally know that we may take pleasure chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa loudly. Others may not... That is generally. So when you go others' place, we may not chant loudly, simply chant in such a way you can hear. That's all... You don't stop chanting.
Room Conversation with Officer Harry Edwards, the Village Policeman -- August 30, 1973, Bhaktivedanta Manor, London:

Śyāmasundara: Every Sunday, we want to have the neighbors come if they will. We will have every Sunday a feast here for everyone in the village.

Harry: Yes.

Śyāmasundara: Many people will come from the public on Sunday, but in particular, the neighbors are going to come.

Harry: Well, Father Bernard... We had this... You had a meeting, hadn't you? With the Trust.

Guest: Yes.

Harry: This, now this trust, the Village Trust, the Village Trust, right? This is a good idea. Because you got a couple of dissenters are on the board there. You see. And so when they got the chairman, it's discussed properly, they will spread out...

Śyāmasundara: Yeah.

Harry: They will all say, "What you've said is a load of old hooey." You see. And this will be that.

Śyāmasundara: The policy will be decided by them, more or less, won't it? Like how everyone should regard us, or...?

Harry: Well, no...

Guest: What he's saying...

Harry: No, no, no. You're getting the wrong idea. You're getting the wrong idea. No, you're getting the wrong idea. No you're getting, you're gonna get the wrong idea. First of all, you've got your principles, you've got your independence. Same as I've got mine. Right? It is your place. This is your home. If I don't like the way you live, that's... I don't have to... I can either shut my eyes to it, but I don't have to turn away from you. Same as you may not like the way I live.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Harry: Right?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Harry: So you'll have to accept my misgivings as or I'll have to accept your misgivings. But I'm not going to create a good impression... I'm not going to think, "Well, I mustn't do that because I'm going to upset Mrs. Smith. I'm mustn't do that because I'm going to upset Mr. Jones. And if I do that, I shall upset somebody else." I mean, if you're going to do that, then life is going to be a misery.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Harry: But the point is this, that if you just act as you are, and, if you don't mind me saying... These little things which come back to me, and thinking a bit logically, from a common sense point of view, I don't think it's necessary. But you can tell me to mind my own business. I'm not here to dictate to you. Now you must remember this. And the only time I should dictate to you is if you commit any offense outside the road where my jurisdiction starts, or there is a serious incident in the temple which I would have to come out and sort out. Now can you follow me?

Śyāmasundara: Yes.

Revatīnandana: Actually, we would appreciate if you would tell us these things, that the village people are thinking this, thinking that. If they're feeling unhappy about something, if it's something that we can change, let us know.

Harry: Well, this is it. Look... But you can't do this... Rome wasn't built in a day.

Prabhupāda: No, you cannot satisfy...

Harry: You cannot satisfy everyone.

Revatīnandana: No, but about our external behavior...

Prabhupāda: That's not. We cannot change our policy.

Harry: No.

Revatīnandana: No. About our external behavior, things that they are finding bothersome... Like we are chanting loudly on the street or in the doctor's office.

Prabhupāda: Well, that is...

Revatīnandana: These kind of things, we want to know. See.

Harry: Do you agree with that, Prabhupāda? Isn't it? Prabhupāda, Prabhupāda? Do you agree with that, though, that it was not necessary to, say chant continually out in a doctor's surgery or...?

Prabhupāda: No.

Harry: No. I don't think so. I mean I wouldn't go around in the road holding up my book which tells me about the law. You know what I mean. I would read my law inside my office if I'm not certain of it. Okay. These are the thing... But there again, if you want to, well, you do it...

Revatīnandana: No. What he means is that if, whenever he hears of some incident, like the doctor's surgery, should he tell us or not? And I'm saying he should tell us so we'll know. And if it's nothing important, we can correct it easily.

Prabhupāda: No, we should generally know that we may take pleasure chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa loudly. Others may not.

Revatīnandana: Right.

Prabhupāda: That is generally. So when you go others' place, we may not chant loudly, simply chant in such a way you can hear. That's all.

Harry: Yeah, this'll do it. I mean, if you want to chant...

Prabhupāda: You don't stop chanting.

Harry: No!

Prabhupāda: But that: (softly:) Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma... I am hearing. That's all.

Revatīnandana: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Not that you have to advertise yourself, you are chanting, Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa...

Harry: Because, you see, this is the thing. People say, "Oh, you know..." Because you know that they call me. You know what they say, don't you? Hare Kṛṣṇa on this side, and Harry Edwards on the other side.

Revatīnandana: Oh, Harry on this side and Hare Kṛṣṇa on the other.

Harry: Hare Kṛṣṇa on this side, and Harry Edwards on the other side, that's me. (laughter)

Śyāmasundara: He lives across the road, you see.

Harry: I live across the road.

Śyāmasundara: So it's Hare Kṛṣṇa on this side and Harry Edwards on that side.

Prabhupāda: Oh.

Śyāmasundara: His name is Harry Edwards.

Prabhupāda: Oh, I see.

Harry: My name is Harry Edwards.

Śyāmasundara: So the people who are...

Prabhupāda: A good name.

Harry: Yes.

Prabhupāda: By chanting your name... (laughter)

Harry: Oh, there you are, there you are, yes. This is it. They are chanting my name, you know. Yeah. 'Cause when I ring up the station.

Prabhupāda: So when somebody's disturbed, he can say, "I'm calling Mr. Harry."(laughter).

Harry: You see, when I ring up the station in the morning, you see, say, "Ah, Hare Kṛṣṇa." I say: "Hare Kṛṣṇa to you." (laughter) So I mean some way or other, you're doing what you're asking to do, aren't you? Psychologically.

Śyāmasundara: Everyone's being forced to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Harry: Yeah... But I think these, you know, and I know, of course, you know, I've...

Prabhupāda: The people chant Hare Kṛṣṇa by seeing us. Yes. All over the world.

Harry: Yes. They say to me, Harry Edwards, you see, or Hare...

Śyāmasundara: Yes.

Harry: So therefore, really and truly, if you look at it psychologically, you've achieved your object without them knowing.

Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Yes. Yes.

Harry: Is that right?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Revatīnandana: Yes, this is why we dress this way. Every time we go on the street, everybody on the street says, "There's one of the Hare Kṛṣṇa people." He says "Hare Kṛṣṇa" one time.

Harry: That's. Really. Yeah, yeah. But do you think...? I suppose... Well, it's like everything else. I suppose they would get used to it. Oh, I don't know. They say, if there's a problem... As far as we are concerned, as far as the police are concerned, we can find nothing wrong. You have done nothing wrong, nothing wrong. I mean, I don't know what you got, supposed to do, I don't know what you're supposed to do wrong anyway, but... But that's it, as far as we are concerned...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Page Title:Do you agree with that, Prabhupada? Isn't it? Prabhupada, Prabhupada? Do you agree with that, though, that it was not necessary to, say chant continually out in a doctor's surgery or...?
Compiler:MadhuGopaldas, Rishab
Created:26 of Jul, 2011
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