Prabhupāda: Haribol! Haribol! Haribol! (devotees chant japa)
Child: Haribol! (child makes sounds for some time)
Prabhupāda: Let him play.
Dayānanda: (to child) Are you chanting?
Prabhupāda: Europe begins from Turkey?
Atreya Ṛṣi: From here?
Prabhupāda: No, Europe.
Atreya Ṛṣi: Yes. Europe has small portion in Europe... Turkey has a small portion in Europe and a large portion in Asia Minor.
Prabhupāda: And Russia also?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Russia is also above Turkey. Parts of it is in Europe, part of it is in Asia.
Jñānagamya: Devotees are doing very well in Moscow, Prabhupāda? Is that right? They are distributing books there?
Prabhupāda: It is not very good. But they have got some orders.
Nava-yauvana: So when we preach to people we should first convince them that God is the supreme controller, the supreme proprietor. Then further understanding can come.
Prabhupāda: Yes, there is a supreme controller. That you have to admit. You are not independent. Why they foolishly think independent? What is the reason they're foolishly thinking independent? What is their independence? Nobody is independent. So why they are foolishly thinking independent? You first challenge them. They are not independent. Are you independent? So why they foolishly declare independent?
Jñānagamya: They are ignorant.
Prabhupāda: So what is the position then? They are in ignorance, and they are leading the society as scientist, philosopher, politician. That is misleading. They cannot go even freely in the so-called moon planet excursion or Mars. Still, they are declaring independence. What is their independence?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Rascal.
Nandarāṇī: If someone accepts his dependence on God, then what is the second step? In preaching, so someone has accepted, "Yes, we are dependent on God," but actually they have no knowledge who God is.