Rāmeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, some devotees, sometimes they feel that in ISKCON we're talking so much about the business of how to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but we're not talking enough about Kṛṣṇa's pastimes, kṛṣṇa-kathā, they say. So that's another reason why they want to read all these pastimes.
Prabhupāda: Then let them read. What kind of kṛṣṇa-kathā? The kṛṣṇa-kathā test is as soon as he'll get the taste, he'll lose this taste. That is the.... What is this nonsense?
Rāmeśvara: Won't it purify them? That's what they say, "It will purify me."
Prabhupāda: What you are purified? You have become a, what is called, putrefied, not purified.
Devotees: Jaya, Prabhupāda.
Rāmeśvara: You can become purified, and sometimes you can increase your...
Prabhupāda: No, no. You can read. Be purified. You can read. But where is your purification?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Putrefaction.
Prabhupāda: The books are there for reading. By reading, you become purified. (break) In 1935, our Guru Mahārāja, Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, he went to Rādhā-kuṇḍa for Kārttika-vrata. So at that time he was reading Upaniṣads. So first of all, these bābājīs they were coming. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī had come at Rādhā-kuṇḍa. He's giving some class. So they used to come. But as soon as they saw that he was reading Upaniṣads, they stopped coming. They saw: "They are jñānīs, they are not bhaktas."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did they want to hear? Daśama-skandha?
Prabhupāda: Like that. So Prabhupāda condemned them that "They are not living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. They're living in Naraka-kuṇḍa." I heard it, "They're living in Naraka-kuṇḍa."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So our men who go to Rādhā-kuṇḍa and live there...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: They're risking living in Naraka-kuṇḍa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I remember one boy was living there for about three months, and you got very angry and told him that there were already enough monkeys in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Do not try to jump over like a monkey.