Jagadīśa: If someone who is well-off wants to become a devotee, shall we encourage him to give up all of his material well-being, or shall we ask him to instead put a temple in his house and encourage him how to make his house into a temple and make his whole family Kṛṣṇa conscious?
Prabhupāda: And what is your material well-being? Everyone is going hundred miles for well-being. Is that well-being? Either they may go by motorcar or by train . . . And as soon as there is—what is called?—bottle-neck, they become very much disturbed: "How to go to the office?" Where is well-being?
Rāmeśvara: Say the Christian religion . . . The Christian religion has millions of followers.
Prabhupāda: But what is the meaning of these followers? They do not understand anything. Simply by rubber-stamp they are follower.
Rāmeśvara: But if we can get a mass following, it is only possible by preaching to them little bit at a time.
Prabhupāda: Yes. By your ideal life, ideal teaching, you'll get. This Christian or any religion, what is the use of that? It's not at all religion. It's simply rubber-stamp.
Rāmeśvara: No. But if we had many people, then gradually we could help them become Kṛṣṇa conscious.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: But I think they will all . . . One thing that scares people is that we ask too much . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, that is . . .
Rāmeśvara: . . . at the beginning. We are asking too much.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: So if we ask just a little bit, then gradually we increase.
Prabhupāda: No, little bit we say, that "You come, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and take prasāda."
Jagadīśa: "And read our books."
Prabhupāda: Suppose you are illiterate, you cannot. But you can do this—"Come here, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and take prasādam."