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By uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence

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"by uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

Adānta-gobhiḥ, by uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence.

Prabhupāda: Indriyārtheṣu vairāgyam: not to indulge in sense gratification. Not to dress himself as a sādhu, as a svāmī.

Yogi Amrit Desai: Not external.

Prabhupāda: He's servant of his senses, and he has become a svāmī. Just see—how cheating.

Yogi Amrit Desai: That's the real meaning.

Prabhupāda: Svāmī means who is the controller of the senses.

Yogi Amrit Desai: Master of the senses.

Prabhupāda: Senses. So instead of svāmī he is servant of his senses, and he is preaching as svāmī. These svāmīs go to the foreign countries. Indriyārtheṣu vairāgyam.

Yogi Amrit Desai: They have vairāgya to his senses, of the senses.

Prabhupāda: A vairāgya . . . vairāgya . . . sannyāsī means he has ceased all material desire. There is no material desire. And the concentrated material enjoyment is sex. So if one could not control his sex life, then how he is svāmī? He's cheater.

Yogi Amrit Desai: That is the most potent of all the external attachments.

Prabhupāda: That is the essence. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimuktes. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimuktes tamo-dvāraṁ yoṣitāṁ saṅgī-saṅgam (SB 5.5.2). Tamo-dvāram. Viśatāṁ tamisram adānta-gobhiḥ. Adānta-gobhiḥ, by uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence. Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram (SB 7.5.30). So those who are sensuous . . . one should not be sensuous. That is also. And if he mixes with sensuous persons, then he also going to the hell.

Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. One who attaches himself to that.

Prabhupāda: He's also going to the hell. Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisraṁ punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). So without ācāryopāsanam, without being under the control of ācārya, these are all bogus.

Yogi Amrit Desai: That's exactly what I believe. That's so true.

Jagadīśa: Anahaṅkāra eva ca, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānudarśanam (BG 13.9).

Prabhupāda: They are showing some magic. Just like this child was being treated. So he could not check the process of death. Neither it is possible to stop the process of death. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha . . . our real unhappiness is this—janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi. So otherwise why there is knowledge? He does not know what is the miserable condition of life. Everyone knows that he is going to die. He has taken birth; he has become old, he has suffered diseases. Then where is the solution? In America this yoga practice is very popular, and they want some solution of the miseries. But here it is said: "Where is the solution?" Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi is there. Where is your solution? You cannot stop death. Then where is the solution? This is cheating that, "I shall make solution of your suffering." But a intelligent man will say: "Can you make a solution of my death, of my old age, of my disease, of my birth?" That is knowledge. But they are poor fellows. They have no knowledge, and they cheat. That's all. Where is solution? Solution is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti (BG 4.9), it is said. Otherwise cheating.

Page Title:By uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-09-30, 03:54:33
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1