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By nature one dies natural death, and you have accelerated-many millions of people can be killed by this atomic weapon. So what is your achievement? Save millions of people

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"By nature one dies natural death, and you have accelerated—many millions of people can be killed by this atomic weapon. So what is your achievement? Save millions of people"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

You have given facilities to die earlier. That is atomic energy. There is no energy which can save him—"No more death." Is that improvement? By nature one dies natural death, and you have accelerated—many millions of people can be killed by this atomic weapon. So what is your achievement? Save millions of people.

Prabhupāda: Big, big words, that's all.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "On the other hand, books like Arabian Nights, Gulliver's Travels . . ."

Prabhupāda: Who's that Arabian Night?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ". . . fairy stories like the Mahā . . ."

Prabhupāda: Who's talking Arabian Night?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says: "Fairy stories like Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa, Bible, Koran, Pilgrim's . . ." Oh, this man . . . "Pilgrim's Progress, Jataka stories, astrology, palmistry, numerology, theology, demonology, etc. are the products of subjective thinkers. While the former are factual, the latter are all fictitious. Some of the marvelous achievements of mankind in recent years are the liberation of atomic energy, radio telescopy, to reach . . ."

Prabhupāda: What is value of atomic energy? A man is dying; you have accelerated his death. That's all.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Says "Landing on the moon . . ."

Prabhupāda: Have you invented something that man will not die? Then it is approved. They are dying. You have given facilities to die earlier. That is atomic energy. There is no energy which can save him—"No more death." Is that improvement? By nature one dies natural death, and you have accelerated—many millions of people can be killed by this atomic weapon. So what is your achievement? Save millions of people.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says, "Mentally deranged intellectuals are capable of expatiating on their hallucinations."

Prabhupāda: So who is mentally deranged?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says we are. He says: "And they often become founders and preachers of diverse types of religious cults."

Prabhupāda: No, no. Your atomic energy, what benefit has done to the people?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: A real rākṣasa. Here's Haṁsadūta's reply to him. "Reply to Dr. Kovoor's article: Before going into the main body of my article, which I . . . a transcript of a lecture I delivered at Sarasvatī Hall on July 29th before an audience of approximately one thousand respectable gentry of Colombo, and where Dr. Kovoor also happened to be present and was subsequently challenged but failed to defend his position that life is generated by chance chemical combination, I would briefly like to point out the apparent defects in his article. It is not beyond Kovoor's power of observation. First of all, it should be pointed out that Dr. Kovoor has done exactly what I predicted he would do in my last article, namely swamp the reader with a deluge of word jugglery in order to avoid the main point in question, which is, If life is generated by chance biochemical combination, as the scientists claim, then if given the said chemicals, can the scientist Kovoor make the chemicals come to life? Instead of answering this point, he has cleverly written that 'Scientists have created over ten elements, such a fermium, plutonium, serium, einsteinium, etc.' But elements are a far cry from living beings. He says that Dr. Cyril Ponnamperuma and Dr. Bal Gobind Khorana, Nobel Prize–winners . . ." Incidentally, this Mr. Nobel was the inventor of dynamite, and he is giving Peace prizes. Absurd to say the least. He's famous for inventing dynamite, and he's giving the Peace Prize. As you said, drunkards. He says: "Those Nobel Prize–winners have synthesized the building blocks of living protoplasm. So if this is a fact, then why Dr. Kovoor has not met the challenge and created life with the said building blocks of amino acids? My challenge still stands: Create life from chemicals. As for incubating a baby in a test tube . . ." (break) ". . . required to produce that baby in the test tube cannot be created by the so-called scientists. So what is their credit if they produce a baby in a test tube? God is already producing millions of babies daily in nature's test tube, the womb of a woman. Kovoor's statement that scientists are objective thinkers and base their thoughts on empirical knowledge only, goes to prove my point that the soul lies beyond the jurisdiction of the limited senses of the scientists, and therefore a completely different process of approach has to be adopted."

Prabhupāda: So Haṁsadūta will become famous now.

Devotee: What's that?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Haṁsadūta will become famous now. All the people there will support Haṁsadūta. Naturally they won't support such a rascal. (pause) (indistinct whispering in background)

Prabhupāda: This argument is called Pretitio Principial, logic. You can see the dictionary, what is the meaning, pretitio.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is it called, Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Pretitio Principial. So what the public said?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Should I just finish reading his article, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: He's giving very strong argument.