Prabhupāda: So digging must begin today? The men are there for digging? So Saurabha, you give one site plan immediately.
Saurabha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And order bricks, that's all. Cement and sand we have got. (break) . . . any living entity having a material body, he has got soul. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13). Now preach this movement. (break) Begin also building there, like this.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That piece of land right here?
Prabhupāda: Huh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: When do you want to begin it?
Prabhupāda: Immediately.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What's this? . . . (indistinct) . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: Nṛsiṁha-deva wanted to give him benediction, blessings, "Whatever you like." He refused that. He said that "I am not a mercantile devotee that I'll get some benefit from You, but first benediction I want that let me engage in the service of Your servant, Nārada Muni." Tava bhṛtya-sevām (SB 7.9.28). "Because my spiritual master gave me blessing, therefore I see You. So my first business is to serve him." This is Vaiṣṇava conclusion. So he refused direct service, but he wanted blessing that he may be engaged in the service of his spiritual master. This is Vaiṣṇava conclusion.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He was indebted to his guru.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Certainly he must be. Certainly he must be. Because by the mercy, guru takes the compassion that "These are suffering in this material world." He goes door to door and tries to save him. And if one forgets guru and jumps over to serve Kṛṣṇa, he is not a devotee.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Guru-druha.
Prabhupāda: He is not a devotee. Mad-bhaktya . . . there is a verse. Kṛṣṇa says that "Worship of My devotee is greater worship than to Me."
Śāstrījī: Mad bhaktyā yānti mām.
Prabhupāda: And Lord Śiva, he advises Pārvatī when she was questioning . . . oh, there is no stair from inside? You have to go like this?
Bhavānanda: No, ladder, there is outside stair that has to be fixed yet. It is just now finished in two stories.
Prabhupāda: Outside?
Bhavānanda: Outside stairs.
Prabhupāda: How?
Bhavānanda: Metal stairs.
Prabhupāda: Where to do it? Within?
Bhavānanda: No. Outside will be fixed.
Prabhupāda: How you can? Outside, how it can be fixed?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Where is it going to go from?
Bhavānanda: There are ladders up to these rooms, and then stairs on an angle up to those rooms.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ladder where? Where is there a ladder going to be?