Prabhupāda: Viṣṇu, this word has been used, "all-pervading, all-pervading forms." It does not mean that because all-pervading, there is no form. Form is there always.
Dr. Patel: Shall I go ahead?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel:
- daṁṣṭrā-karālāni ca te mukhāni
- dṛṣṭvāiva kālānala-sannibhāni
- diśo na jāne na labhe ca śarma
- prasīda deveśa jagan-nivāsa
Girirāja: (reads synonyms) "Translation: O Lord of lords, O refuge of the worlds, please be gracious to me. I cannot keep my balance seeing Your blazing deathlike faces and awful teeth. In all directions I am bewildered."
Dr. Patel: There is no comment on that.
- amī ca tvāṁ dhṛtarāṣṭrasya putrāḥ
- sarve sahaivānipāla-saṅghaiḥ
- bhīṣmo droṇaḥ sūta-putras tathāsau
- sahāsmadīyair api yodha-mukhyaiḥ
- vaktrāṇi te tvaramāṇā viśanti
- daṁṣṭrā-karālāni bhayānakāni
- (break)
Prabhupāda: ...earth, earth, and pāla means kings. Protectors, rāja-pāla.
Dr. Patel: Our rāja-pāla, Giri. (break)
Girirāja: "All the sons of Dhṛtarāṣṭra along with their allied kings, and Bhīṣma, Droṇa and Karṇa, and all our soldiers are rushing into Your mouths, their heads smashed by Your fearful teeth. I see that some are being crushed between Your teeth as well."
Prabhupāda: (break) ...leaders, they are entering into the mouth of the kāla just like insects. "Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat!" Although within their lifetime they were very, very big leaders, but they are entering into the mouth of the kāla just like insects and flies. That's it. (break) ...plans, but there is no plan how to stop...
Dr. Patel: Death.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No, how to stop this forceful entering into the mouth of the kāla. Just like a very good example: When there is fire and all the insects and flies, "Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat!" That's it. Attracted by the beauty. Similarly, all these big, big leaders, being attracted, bahir-artha-māninaḥ... They have been described in Bhāgavata, bahir-artha-māninaḥ. They are thinking this beautiful nature as everything, "There is no other thing."