Prabhupāda: . . . situation. The . . . why America is after this Pakistan? This requires little intelligence. The America has no interest either in Pakistan or India, but both of them, being on the border of Russia, it will be convenient for them to fight with the Russian from these places.
Nalinī-kānta: Through Pakistan.
Prabhupāda: Do you follow? You have seen Indian map, eh, Asian map? Have you got any?
Nalinī-kānta: Yes, India and Pakistan are right at the bottom of Russia.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They want this place.
Nalinī-kānta: The Russians.
Prabhupāda: Russ . . . no. Americans.
Nalinī-kānta: Americans.
Prabhupāda: Americans want this place to fight with the Russia. So if American comes directly in India, that "We want to fight," then India would not agree. Therefore they're keeping with these foolish rascals, Pakistan. And they're inciting. They're . . . not inciting. They're naturally enemy of . . . (break) . . . not to let them . . . the Vietnam and everything, Korea, all these things. Not to allow the Communists to become very powerful. That is American political policy is going on. And the presidents may change, but the national policy cannot be changed. Therefore they want fighting between Pakistan and India. So Russia. . . actually that happened. Russia will come to the help of India. That arrangement is already there with Indira Gandhi. Naturally they'll come to help Pakistan. And then between the big two.
Nalinī-kānta: That's why you said this morning that India will suffer more than any other country.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhagavān: The last time there was a war between Pakistan and India the American government put their whole fleet and aimed their guns at India.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They wanted to help Pakistan. But when the Russian came, they took time. Otherwise, fighting would have begun at that time.