Prabhupāda: Still in India, the low class, they keep hogs for killing. And they publicly kill the hog by burning outside the village skirt.
Hari-śauri: I can remember when I was a child that my grandfather, he had one pigsty. And the house that we were living in, that also had a pigsty at the back. There were no pigs by the time I came, but only just a few years before they were doing that.
Prabhupāda: Why the government should keep slaughterhouse?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You asked them that in Mauritius, I remember. The government started a chicken slaughterhouse. You said, "Why the government should have slaughterhouse?" And they replied, "They will kill them anyway. There are so many Muslims." Prabhupāda said, "Let them kill, but why the government should support this slaughter?"
Prabhupāda: Let them kill at their house. Especially chicken, anyone can kill.
Hari-śauri: The government's idea is that "The people are going to do these activities, so we may as well cash in, make money."
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Hari-śauri: The government, their idea is that "If they are going to do this activity, then let us make money."
Prabhupāda: And as soon as I heard that prime minister went to open this, I immediately . . .
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda didn't want to meet him.
Prabhupāda: "Oh, he's a rascal."
Hari-śauri: In Mauritius the prime minister opened a chicken factory.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he's a Hindu, too.
Prabhupāda: Immediately I gave up the idea of meeting this rascal. (break)
Hari-śauri: Well, of course, they'll always try to claim . . .
Prabhupāda: From our estimation it is failure. They have not gone there.
Hari-śauri: No.
Prabhupāda: But what is their standard of failure and success?
Hari-śauri: Well, they don't . . . They're establishing a standard now. They don't have a standard. They are always going to try to claim that it is beneficial. Otherwise, if it's judged a failure, then they won't get any money.
Prabhupāda: That way they are successful—in getting money.
Hari-śauri: So they have to say it's a success. Just like this Mars thing. If they can land a spaceship that takes a few photographs, supposedly of Mars, then that's considered a success.
Prabhupāda: Photograph you can take anywhere.
Hari-śauri: Yes. Could they actually send . . .? Are they actually sending these spaceships to another planet, or . . .?
Prabhupāda: That they know. According to our calculations, they have not gone.
Hari-śauri: No.
Prabhupāda: It is false propaganda. They cannot go.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We can go on a morning walk now, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We can go now, if you like.