Jayādvaita: In America that's called giving someone enough rope to hang himself.
Prabhupāda: Mm.
Pañcadraviḍa: In South India, when we were down there, we had to do that. We listened to them first and then took their money.
Madhudviṣa: But we also should defeat them.
Pañcadraviḍa: Taking their money is defeating them.
Lokanātha: Śrīla Prabhupāda, what is the position of vrajavāsīs, those who are living in Vṛndāvana now? What happens to them next life?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Simply by living, if they do not commit any sinful, they'll go back to home. Simply by living. Without committing any sinful activities. Always remember Kṛṣṇa, this is Kṛṣṇa's land, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto. That will deliver them.
Madhudviṣa: They don't need a spiritual master?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Spiritual master is always needed. Chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā nistāra pāyeche kebā. Without abiding by the orders of spiritual master and serving him, nobody can be. Otherwise rascal. He has accepted one rascal spiritual master, and he cannot understand what is God, nine years, because he did not accept spiritual master.
Hari-śauri: So all these local vrajavāsīs, they all accept...
Prabhupāda: No, vrajavāsīs, they are... Generally, naturally, they are Kṛṣṇa conscious. Otherwise how is this illiterate farmer, he is offering? This is natural.
Pañcadraviḍa: But he has no spiritual master.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Pañcadraviḍa: He has a spiritual master?
Prabhupāda: No, no, he has a spiritual master, yes. And even without spiritual master they have already elevated to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Pañcadraviḍa: So they will go back home?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, because spiritual master is within, caitya-guru.
Lokanātha: You said one time Kṛṣṇa is there.
Prabhupāda: Mm. Kṛṣṇa-guru-kṛpā. (end)