Haṁsadūta: In, in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa also, He says to Arjuna, "What need is there of all this knowledge? Just know that with one spark of My splendor I am pervading everything."
Prabhupāda: That's all. How He is doing that, it is very difficult to know. Jñāne prayāsam udapāsya namanta eva san-mukharitāṁ bhavadīya-vārtām jīvanti (SB 10.14.3).
Śyāmasundara: I see that they've got a telephone in Māyāpur now.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Śyāmasundara: They, they have a telephone in Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: Oh!
Śyāmasundara: Svarupa Ganj 31.
Prabhupāda: That's nice. That . . . that is wanted.
Śyāmasundara: Yeah. (laughs with Prabhupāda) There's actually a telephone there.
Prabhupāda: So many American brains are there, if they do not do like that, then what is the use? Have you seen the letter heading then?
Śyāmasundara: Oh, it has a little on the side, Māyāpur Center.
Prabhupāda: Oh, this is the same, Calcutta.
Śyāmasundara: Mm-hm.
Prabhupāda: Ah, Māyāpur Center. Sridhama Māyāpur, District Nadia, Phone Svarupa Ganj 31.
Śyāmasundara: You can actually telephone them someday. Yeah, if you manage to get through.
Prabhupāda: Construct big, big temples, and keep it alive—by kīrtana, by book distribution, by distribution prasāda. "And now we have got big temple, let us eat prasāda and sleep. (laughing) Then temple, will also sleep. That's all." Now we should also keep it in mind, unless there are four, five devotees experienced, we should not center, open a center, because alone he becomes polluted. Without any association he thinks otherwise and becomes fallen down, that which has happened to Kṛṣṇa dāsa. When he was alone, he, he could not manage. There was debts, and he became disgusted. You see?
Haṁsadūta: What about, Prabhupāda, in, in Germany I have . . . I have for instance in Munchen, in Munich, and in . . .
Prabhupāda: There at least must be two, three men. Otherwise don't open.
Haṁsadūta: Yeah, there are two or three men, but I visit them regularly. You know I . . .
Prabhupāda: That's all right. You just living . . . keep them alive.
Haṁsadūta: That's right, yeah.
Prabhupāda: Simply because you have opened a center the business is finished, no.
Haṁsadūta: No. I go. We go there . . .
Prabhupāda: You must keep them alive. Alive means this morning class must go on, evening class must go on, there must be regular program for prasāda distribution, saṅkīr . . . busy. That is alive.
Revatīnandana: And they must also study your books.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Otherwise, there are so many Indian temples or churches, they think the church is there, everything is finished. No. Why people are losing interest in church? There is no preaching. Neither do they know what is preaching. They simply think that "This building will attract people." So they are now on sale.
Revatīnandana: In Calcutta it was like that. We . . . we would . . . we would . . . everywhere it's like that. We attract people with the Deity worship, but we hold them with the lectures.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: And then more come and come.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
(break) Come on. So how you were allowed to enter?
Śivānanda: Oh, it was all right. No difficulty. No difficulty.
Prabhupāda: Ah. Last time you had difficulty.
Śivānanda: No. Last year it was all right also. But before that it was . . .
Prabhupāda: Before that. So what news?
Śivānanda: Nice place in Heidelburg. Kṛṣṇa gave us a very nice temple there.
Prabhupāda: Your health is all right?
Śivānanda: My health is fine.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. You are the pioneer of European activities. Yes.
Prabhupāda: From Montreal, you were pushed. Yes. And from San Francisco, Gaurasundara was pushed to Hawaii. (chuckles) So Śivānanda Prabhu was also pushed from Montreal. So Kṛṣṇa is very much pleased. And Sudāmā was pushed to Japan. Now, anyway, that pushing has not become unsuccessful.