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<div class="heading">Chanting will go on. That is not stopped. But at the same time the varṇāśrama-dharma must be established to make the way easy.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced -- February 14, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced -- February 14, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: But in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's practical preaching He only induced them to chant.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is not possible for ordinary man.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: What, to simply induce people to chant?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: He only introduced just the chanting.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But who will chant? Who'll chant?</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: But if they won't chant, then neither will they train up in the varṇāśrama. That's the easiest.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The chanting will be there, but you cannot expect that people will chant like Caitanya Mahāprabhu. They cannot even chant sixteen rounds. (And) these rascals are going to be Caitanya Mahāprabhu.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: No. But if they at least will chant and take some prasāda...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Chanting will go on. That is not stopped. But at the same time the varṇāśrama-dharma must be established to make the way easy.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Well, at least my own understanding was that the chanting was introduced in the age of Kali because varṇāśrama is not possible.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because it will cleanse the mind. Chanting will not stop.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: So therefore the chanting was introduced to replace all of the systems of varṇāśrama and like that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, it can replace, but who is going to replace it? The... People are not so advanced. If you imitate Haridāsa Ṭhākura to chant, it is not possible.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: We tell them go on with your job but chant also.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Thākaha āpanāra kāje, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. Āpanāra kāja ki. Caitanya Mahāprabhu recommended, sthāne sthitaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.14.3|SB 10.14.3]]). And if they do not remain in the sthāna, then the sahajiyā's chanting will come. Just like the sahajiyās also have got the beads and..., but they have got three dozen women. This kind of chanting will go on. Just like our (name withheld). He was not fit for sannyāsa but he was given sannyāsa. And five women he was attached, and he disclosed. Therefore varṇāśrama-dharma is required. Simply show-bottle will not do. So the varṇāśrama-dharma should be introduced all over the world, and...</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Introduced starting with ISKCON community?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Brāhmaṇa, kṣatriyas. There must be regular education.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: But in our community, if the..., being as we're training up as Vaiṣṇavas...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: ...then how will we be able to make divisions in our society?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Vaiṣṇava is not so easy. The varṇāśrama-dharma should be established to become a Vaiṣṇava. It is not so easy to become Vaiṣṇava.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: No, it's not a cheap thing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore this should be made. Vaiṣṇava, to become Vaiṣṇava, is not so easy. If Vaiṣṇava, to become Vaiṣṇava is so easy, why so many fall down, fall down? It is not easy. The sannyāsa is for the highest qualified brāhmaṇa. And simply by dressing like a Vaiṣṇava, that is... fall down.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: So the varṇāśrama system is like for the kaniṣṭhas, Kaniṣṭha-adhikārī.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kaniṣṭha?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: When one is only on the platform of neophyte.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Kaniṣṭha-adhikārī, yes.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Varṇāśrama system is beneficial.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kaniṣṭha-adhikārī means he must be a brāhmaṇa. That is kaniṣṭha-adhikārī. The spiritual life, kaniṣṭha-adhikārī, means he must be a qualified brāhmaṇa. That is kaniṣṭha. What is esteemed as very high position in the material world, brāhmaṇa, that is kaniṣṭha-adhikārī.</p>
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