Gurudāsa: . . .about some other paṇḍitas who wanted to get Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura out of the town. So two of his students, one posed as a betel seller and one as a potter. And when the men came to take, kick, Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura out of the town, they first stopped to get some betel. And the betel seller was quoting Sanskrit verses, and then the potter was also quoting Sanskrit verses. So they thought, "If the betel seller and the potter of this town are such great paṇḍitas, what must Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura be like?" So they left the town immediately. (break) . . .Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is the ability in man.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Gurudāsa: Kṛṣṇa is the ability in man. Kṛṣṇa is the ability . . .
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is everything.
Gurudāsa: Yes. Is it all right to think sometimes when there is some success that it's more due to you than to Kṛṣṇa? Because you've taught us about Kṛṣṇa, you've taught us how to speak, etcetera. In other words, when there's some success, can we think that it's due to you more than to Kṛṣṇa, or both, or . . .
Prabhupāda: According to śāstra, both. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151). By the grace of Kṛṣṇa one gets guru, and by the grace of guru one gets Kṛṣṇa. If one is sincerely seeking after Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa gives him a guru, and the guru teaches him how to get Kṛṣṇa.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes, Śrīla Prabhupāda, devotees want to know what your greatest pleasure would be.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What your greatest pleasure would be; how you would want your disciples to . . .
Prabhupāda: You all become fully Kṛṣṇa conscious, cent percent Kṛṣṇa conscious. (break) . . .that people are suffering for want of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Let them have this Kṛṣṇa consciousness and become happy. That's all. (motorcyle passes and riders yell Prabhupāda's name)
Gurudāsa: People are very more respectful in Delhi now, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Friendly, respectful.
Prabhupāda: We have all respect. Amāninā mānadena (CC Adi 17.31). Even who has no respect, we give respect, everyone, not for his material position, but because he is part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. (break) . . .are also coming here?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Who, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Gargamuni's vans, six vans?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He's not scheduled to come. Perhaps later on. He had some program scheduled. Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes the question is raised that Lord Caitanya predicted the holy name will be preached in every town and village throughout the world. So to what extent will it be preached?
Prabhupāda: That will depend on the preacher.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In other words, will there be preaching centers in every town and village, or will it just be a question of traveling through and preaching to the people and ticking off that we've been there?
Prabhupāda: No.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I don't think so.
Prabhupāda: Traveling is essential. If possible there may be centers.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: But our ambition should not be simply to go to every town and village simply so that we can say we went to every town and village. We should actually try to . . .
Prabhupāda: No, why village? Everywhere you go, town, village, everywhere. Abaddha-karuṇā-sindhu, nitāi katiyā mohan, ghare ghare, kare dāna, like that. Abaddha-karuṇā-sindhu, nitāi katiyā mohan, ghare ghare durlabha prema, kare dāna. Brahmā durlabha prema kare dāna (Caitanya-mangala), like that. So ghare ghare. Not only village to village but door to door. Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Preaching engagement is unlimited.
Prabhupāda: In the material world the poor man thinks, "Oh, this gentleman has got such big, big house. If I could have one." Eh? And the spiritual world, without desiring there are so many big, big house we have got.