Harikeśa: I think a thesis, it would be described in the dictionary as a proposition.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Who can give proposition unless one is human being? The dog cannot give proposition. The animal cannot give proposition. So who is giving this proposition throughout the Western world, that within this body there is the real person? Who understands this? Therefore they're all animals. What is the value of their so-called philosophy? Hmm? What do you think? Yasyātmā buddhiḥ kunāpe tri-dhātuke (SB 10.84.13). If he's in the bodily concept of life, then he remains animal. What is the value of his thesis? Now here is the thesis. Now antithesis is also there. Actually we are trying to adjust. Only Society. The thesis is the soul, the antithesis is the body, and synthesis is how to adjust the body and soul so that the soul be benefited from this entanglement.
Harikeśa: That's the varṇāśrama system?
Prabhupāda: That is different thing only.
Harikeśa: Okay.
Prabhupāda: Lat . . . first of all, this is the problem.
Harikeśa: First to find out the problem . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: . . . and discuss the problem.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is dialectic. So you can write "dialectic spiritualism."
Harikeśa: Dialectic spiritualism. I think they should print this also in Back to Godhead.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Haṁsadūta: It'd make a good article.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Haṁsadūta: It would make a good article, what you've just spoken.
Prabhupāda: So write.
Harikeśa: You so completely destroy the opposition, it's very hard to say anything more.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Mahārāja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Mahārāja. You'll praise your Guru Mahārāja. That is not very difficult. But be victorious to the opposing elements. Then you will praise your Guru Mahārāja nicely. At home, you can praise your Guru Mahārāja, and Guru Mahārāja be satisfied, "Oh, my disciples are praising me." That is not very . . . that is good, respectful. That is the qualification. But you have to fight. Then your Guru Mahārāja will be glorified.