Prabhupāda: So in Detroit they do not go on the street?
Hari-śauri: No, not in the local neighborhood.
Prabhupāda: So far, there was no disturbance.
Hari-śauri: No, not while we were there.
Prabhupāda: No, before that.
Hari-śauri: No, they haven't reported any disturbance.
Prabhupāda: And the black men, they come also?
Hari-śauri: Yes, I think they are...
Prabhupāda: Sympathetic.
Hari-śauri: Yes, because the devotees are not prejudiced in any way. We have white devotees and we have black devotees also. And if the neighbors want to come and see the place, then they are allowed in and shown around. We are about the only ones who could possibly live there.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: We are the only ones that could live there.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (long pause) What is the reason they are given equal facility, still they are so wretched, poor, ruffian?
Hari-śauri: Just low class. There's no intelligence how to utilize their wealth correctly.
Prabhupāda: Same thing in Africa.
Hari-śauri: I think you gave that example. If you give... If there's a dog and you put him on a king's throne, (Prabhupāda laughs) he'll still come and lick your feet.
Prabhupāda: Yes, he'll lick up shoes. Another example is given: (Bengali saying) aṅgārā śveta... (indistinct). If you take a piece of coal, you can wash it hundreds and thousands of times, it never becomes white. And these are material things, but spiritually you can reform. It doesn't matter. If one comes to the spiritual platform then everything possible. Otherwise not.
Hari-śauri: They're always looking for a platform of equality.
Prabhupāda: The black men.
Hari-śauri: No, just the people in general, for happiness. Because they understand that if there are so many different groups, then there will always be fighting and dissent. So they are always looking for some compromise how to get the groups to live together.
Prabhupāda: This is equal—Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise not.