Woman reporter: Not in the 1900's. Why do you use the technology that you use? You didn't have cars in those days, this television. Things have changed since 1920.
Prabhupāda: So what change has become? Can you give any evidence that woman is more powerful in brain than the man during these years? Can you give any evidence?
Woman reporter: No, what I'm saying is that...
Prabhupāda: Now, can you give any evidence that woman has become more powerful than the man during these fifty years?
Woman reporter: Yes.
Prabhupāda: What is that? Give me some tacit example.
Woman reporter: That she and I wouldn't be here if women weren't more powerful than they were fifty years ago.
Harikeśa: Now they are talking louder. (laughter)
Woman reporter: Than you. Thank you. (woman leaves)
Harikeśa: The scientists have the theory that the brain, the intelligence is measured by creases in the brain, creases, not by size.
Prabhupāda: Not size, but what is the proof that the brain of woman has increased? Where is the proof?
Harikeśa: They think because the ego has increased, the brain has also increased.
Prabhupāda: Oh, that's nice. (laughter) That's nice. (laughing) So to become angry means defeat. If two persons are in argument the man, the one party, he becomes angry, that means he is defeated. Why one should become angry? It is the argument, logic. They should continue. And to become angry and to go away, that means defeat.
Harikeśa: They become upset because they cannot dominate you.
Prabhupāda: No, it is not the question of domination; it is the question of logic. If you do not agree to logic, then no argument can make progress.
Uttamaśloka: Śrīla Prabhupāda, if one does not agree to logic, does that mean that they are under the influence of tamo-guṇa?
Prabhupāda: That means he is animal.
Guest: Under the influence of who?
Uttamaśloka: Tamo-guṇa.
Harikeśa: It's the mode of ignorance.
Guest: Who?
Harikeśa: The mode of ignorance.
Prabhupāda: Logic is meant for learned man, and uneducated man, they want to force, "Yes, you must do it." With point of revolver, "You must do it." And educated man, they argue on logic. That is the difference. (break) ...queens of Kṛṣṇa, they are giving statement as maidservant of Kṛṣṇa. You have read that portion? When there was talk between Kuntī and queens of Kṛṣṇa, the queens presented themself as maidservant of Kṛṣṇa.
Harikeśa: The men have become the servants of the women.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Harikeśa: Women's liberation has become successful because man is now the servant of woman.
Prabhupāda: It is not successful. That I was pointing out. It has caused the disaster because the whole women become dependent on the welfare gift of the government, and the government has to raise tax heavily for this purpose. The tax is given by the general public, but it is going for one individual person, and I have heard that government is embarrassed. They are now making enquiry about the welfare gifts.