Mr. Rajda: Now this information will.... I shall be interested to read from it.
Prabhupāda: So where is that note? Bring. (Hindi) Those who are assisting me, let them have permanent visa so that I can work this way.
Mr. Rajda: Correct.
Prabhupāda: And I am unnecessarily spending five to six lakhs of rupees.
Mr. Rajda: No, this was not mentioned, never mentioned before me. I will definitely take it up when I go to Delhi. And then on 25th, the first thing I'll do...
Prabhupāda: No, we approached that Brahmananda Reddy.
Mr. Rajda: Reddy's not there. They are all gone.
Prabhupāda: No, before that I met him.
Indian (1): Now Your Grace will have to speak either with the prime minister straight, and he will swiftly done.
Mr. Rajda: No, that was the... The prime minister himself will nullify(?). No, he will immediately grasp what is the... 'Cause I have already talked...
Prabhupāda: When I was in Delhi, there was one day a meeting at Brahmananda's place, so I personally requested. So he noted down. That's all. So he's the chief man, home member.
Indian (1): Home member. But the last day his powers were very much limited in home matter. He had to look after the home ministry. And possibly...
Mr. Rajda: There was too much power struggle in those days. That is the main difficulty...
Prabhupāda: In Delhi...
Mr. Rajda: Everyone was struggling for his own existence in that power, in that... Some of the people...
Indian (1): Now we have got a government. The chief man of the...
Prabhupāda: Government.
Indian (1): ...the team, he is an intensely religious-minded man.
Prabhupāda: That is...
Indian (1): Delivering Bhagavad-gītā.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian (1): Practicing the principle of Bhagavad-gītā. So to him we can appeal.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian (1): And it will, appeal go straight home.
Prabhupāda: And therefore I am so much on the..., that a man, harāv abhakta. He is bhagavad-bhakta. (Hindi) This is another proposition.
- bhagavad-bhakti-hīnasya
- jātiḥ śāstraṁ japas tapaḥ
- aprāṇasyeva dehasya
- maṇḍanaṁ loka-rañjanam
"Anyone who has no devotional life, for him, belonging to the great family great nation, jāti..." Bhagavad-bhakti-hīnasya jātiḥ tapaḥ. "All austerity, penance, everything is just like decorating the dead body." Just like a body minus life, so what is the use of decorating with sal and silcram(?). Similarly, any person who may be very highly posted, but if he has no bhagavad-bhakti, then it is decoration.