Prabhupāda: Yajña means to satisfy the Supreme Lord. That is yajña. So in the Kali-yuga the yajña is made very easy: chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. So anywhere you go, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, and see that there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and just work little, you get your food grains, and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Yogeśvara: They won't like that idea.
Prabhupāda: That means their . . . that is their disease. The same thing that, "Why you are sitting here? Come with me, work." "What shall I do by working?" "You get money. Then you'll enjoy." "And I am already enjoying." That they will not do. This is called māyā. Māyā-sukhāya bharam udvahato vimūḍhān (SB 7.9.43). These rascals, simply for little temporary, so-called benefit, they have created this working civilization, "Work very hard, very hard." That's all. Whole history . . . in this Rome city you can see. There are evidences. These buildings are constructed with hard labor. Now those rascals have gone, and they are maintaining that, "They worked so hard." That's all. Those who worked very hard, they have gone away. Now nobody knows where they are and what they have become. But they are maintaining their bricks. That's all. Brick civilization. (japa) (break)
Yogeśvara: No one goes into the park at night. Too dangerous.
Prabhupāda: Just see. They have created such a civilization.
Yogeśvara: The little boy of President John Kennedy was in Central Park last week, and another boy came and pushed him to the ground and stole his bicycle. The president's son.
Prabhupāda: From the very beginning, stealing and robbing. What is this picture? One horse without any . . .
Yogeśvara: I think it is the horse of the hunter.