Indian man: How to seek a master? How to find a master?
Prabhupāda: If you do not know how to seek a master, then how you can quote your so-called rascal master? If you do not know the way.
Indian man: Because there are so many fake masters.
Prabhupāda: So why you should go to that fake master? If you do not know what is...
Indian man: They prophesize, they call, they invite. The ignorant people go, they don't know what real master is. So they come...
Prabhupāda: That much intelligence, we must have that intelligence, that who is master. Suppose if you want gold, if you do not know where gold can be purchased, then he is cheated.
Indian man: That is what is happening.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So why should you be cheated? At least you go to a shop where gold is purchased and sold. Why should you go to a pan wala. If you have no such knowledge then you will get. You must know at least that gold has to be purchased from a merchant who is dealing in gold. If you do not know that, then you will be cheated.
Indian man: That becomes a problem, that people say that they are selling gold, but when you go to them, they are not selling gold.
Prabhupāda: No, no, that is not problem. Problem is you do not know.
Indian man: Yes, that is accepted. Disciple doesn't know.
Prabhupāda: At least, you do not know where gold is purchased and sold. But others know. Otherwise, how they are transacting business, lakhs and crores in gold. He knows. (Hindi) There are many other persons who are dealing in gold. Therefore it is advised... The first is that I want to purchase gold. Śraddhā, this is called śraddhā. Ādau śraddhā. Then sādhu-saṅga (CC Madhya 22.83). If you have to deal, you have to associate with persons. (aside:) I do not know exactly. For the present, we can go there. If I require, we can get up. (pause) At least, if you read Bhagavad-gītā to understand, and one is anxious to understand the need of spiritual life all over the world, So one should read Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Why he should interpret foolishly, spoiling the whole thing?
Indian man: Still, if (indistinct) of Tilak and...
Prabhupāda: Why, why should you read Tilak and Tilak and Tilak? Straight.
Indian man: I don't know Sanskrit.
Prabhupāda: Then one who knows Sanskrit. You do not know.
Indian man: (indistinct) ...somewhere in Chapter Five that if you do bad deeds (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: But you do not know what is bad deeds is your disobedience to Kṛṣṇa is the most dangerous path.
Indian man: He interpreted more what sort of deeds you cannot go back to the...
Prabhupāda: That is nonsense. That means he does not know what is good or bad. He does not know. Therefore he cannot become master. He cannot become master. The Bhagavad-gītā is there and he is refuting Bhagavad-gītā. He is not master.
Indian man: So he took the wrong interpretation of others, Kṛṣṇa has never said like this.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says that dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Find out this verse.
Indian man: When the disciple is ready, the master comes. When the disciple is ready the master appears, comes, comes. It is not that the disciple has to search for the master. The master is also to search after the disciples.
Prabhupāda: Well, it is just like there is a school. The school is also advertising that you come here, you will get education. And one who is in need of education, he is also trying to come to school. So the school must be bona fide and the student must be bona fide. Then things will come at. If the school is bogus, then what the student will learn? They will not learn.
Girirāja: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.
Prabhupāda: Ah, that's it. What does that mean?
Girirāja: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles."
Prabhupāda: There is good sex life and bad sex life. One who does not know what is good sex life, what is bad sex life, he's a rascal. Here you have to indulge in sex life which is not against the religious principles. But you must know what is religious and what is irreligious. If you do not know, you are rascal. There are two kinds of sex life. Otherwise, why Kṛṣṇa says, "Sex life which is not against the religious principles, that I am." So God is good. So sex life which is not against the religious principles, that is good sex life. Otherwise, it is bad.
Indian man: Where Kṛṣṇa comments...
Prabhupāda: First of all let us understand this, that Kṛṣṇa says "Sex life which is not against the religious principles, that is I am." The sex life which is against the religious principles, that is bad.