Paramahaṁsa: The question I have, Prabhupāda is that before scientific advancement, many people would listen to, like, scriptural knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That means śūdras. That I have already said.
Paramahaṁsa: But now they listen more to scientists.
Prabhupāda: That means śūdra. Śūdras are interested to hear from śūdra.
Paramahaṁsa: For example in the Bible they quote that the world is flat. So therefore when they found out the world is round, they say, "Oh, scripture is false."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Paramahaṁsa: Scientists, they have proven the truth that the world is round. Therefore scientists...
Prabhupāda: Yes. That must be, therefore the scriptures must be transcendental. Nonsense scripture, and people become nonsense. So except Vedic literature, all nonsense scripture. They are not scripture. Manufactured. This Bible was manufactured by the saint, this saint, that, according to their imagination. It was not spoken by Lord Jesus Christ. What was spoken by Jesus Christ, that they ignore: "Thou shalt not kill." They kill. Nobody is following Christian principle; neither Bible is perfect. But that, if we say, we will be shot. (laughter)
Paramahaṁsa: That is what they do now in the Vietnam. For God they are killing.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Paramahaṁsa: One of the reasons that the Vietnamese war was beginning was because Communists, being atheists, it was a fight between the theists and the atheists. This was an excuse given.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But that is quite all right. We also prepare to kill atheists.
Paramahaṁsa: But preach first.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Paramahaṁsa: They don't preach.
Prabhupāda: That is, killing is also preaching. If I kill your ignorance, that is also killing. That is also killing. Not... Killing does not mean that everyone has to take the sword.
Paramahaṁsa: A new method of warfare.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is always there. By argument, by knowledge.