Brahmānanda: That Nobel Prize, the Nobel, he's the one who discovered the dynamite which has caused so much destruction in the world. But he made a big fortune. So all that money, he's now pushing for...
Prabhupāda: Another misfortune.
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He created some misfortune, and he spent the money for creating further, more misfortunes. What can he do more? Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa... (Pause)
Brahmānanda: It says in the Gītā that the demoniac, they do acts, horrible acts which are meant to destroy the world.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Ugra-karma. Kṣayāya jagato 'hitāḥ. It is meant for destruction and inauspicity of the world. This is their business.
Locana: If scientists really believed that they were just made out of matter, then there wouldn't be any question of one scientist's thinking he's a person better than another person cause there wouldn't be any individuality, if they believed everything was just atoms and matter.
Prabhupāda: Hmm? Now here is a matter. Why leaves and twigs are not coming. Formerly it was coming. What is the difference?
Locana: The spirit soul.
Prabhupāda: The same, it has grown green, and vegetation. Now the same wood is there. Why it is not coming now? Let scientists explain this.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That simply shows how ignorant the understanding is.
Prabhupāda: Therefore we say rascals, simply.
Karandhara: Well they would say the chemical composition has been changed.
Prabhupāda: All right, give the chemicals. You are now advanced in knowing the chemicals. Inject the chemicals.
Brahmānanda: Knowledge means that you have to be able to demonstrate it.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That... Otherwise what...
Brahmānanda: Otherwise, its' just...
Prabhupāda: Ācaraṇa. It is called ācaraṇa. Āpani ācari bhakti karila pracāra.
Brahmānanda: They should be able to demonstrate it in a laboratory.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Science says that: "observation and experiment." That is science. You observe how things are going on. And you experiment. Then it is perfect. But you cannot make experiment, you simply observe, that, a child also can also observe, and he can speak something nonsense. Just like in our childhood, we were observing the gramophone box, that within the box there is some man who's singing. And electric fan. I was thinking: There must be some ghost. Yes. These kind of suggestion...
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The... In the first time when learn about the difference between the living and the nonliving, this is one of the very popular questions when we start biology: What is the difference between living and the nonliving? So they answer there are several points to differentiate between the two. And they say the living can move and the nonliving cannot grow or cannot move.