Prabhupāda: Spirit of service must be maintained. . . . mukhe hi jivadau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ (CC Madhya 17.136). By service spirit, beginning with tongue: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Then everything is revealed, Vaikuṇṭha atmosphere. Sethjī has not come out. (break) Yes.
Akṣayānanda: Of course we accept. . . Ah, when you tell us to chant sixteen rounds, we accept that figure as being, in perfect faith, that you're the ācārya. But, ah, what if others we want to convince, is there any, any, ah, śāstr. . . any Vedic verse we can refer to, to corroborate that at least they must chant sixteen rounds, or that many number of names?
Prabhupāda: No. In the śāstra it is not said like that. . .
Akṣayānanda: I see.
Prabhupāda: It is said, śaṅkhya-pūrvakaḥ. . .
Akṣayānanda: Śaṅkhya-pūrvakaḥ.
Prabhupāda: You must fix up.
Akṣayānanda: Counting.
Prabhupāda: You must fix up in numerical strength.