Devotee(4): Śrīla Prabhupāda, you said that our body was made by (indistinct). Why should we (indistinct)? But why should we come back?
Prabhupāda: Because you have this material body, you have got so many necessities and God has no material body. He has got spiritual body. He has no necessity. Apta kama. He is fully satisfied. He doesn't require to take anything.
Brahmānanda: He doesn't get hungry or thirsty.
Prabhupāda: Neither. Neither of these things because He hasn't got material body. You have got this material body; therefore you have got all these defects.
Indian man (5): Sometimes it was seen that the people that don't eat, then their body becomes very weak. Then the soul leaves the body after some time. People when they don't eat, their body becomes very weak, the soul leaves the body. Practically it has been seen.
Brahmānanda: Weak? Weak? The body becomes weak when they don't eat?
Indian man (5): Yes.
Prabhupāda: So that is all for the material body. Weakness or strength or dwindling or becoming old is ṣad-avikara. Ṣad-avikara means birth, then growth, then sustenance, then by-products, then dwindling, then finish. This ṣad-avikara, six kinds of changes, are meant for the material body, not for the spiritual.
Harikeśa: So everything is going on, and those things that are going on and they happen to fit in with the whole scheme, they continue. If there is some strength they survive, and if not, they die off, so everything is happening by chance. But because...
Prabhupāda: Chance?
Harikeśa: Yes, chance. But because... (laughter) But because...
Prabhupāda: Another stupidity. (laughter)
Harikeśa: But because some things happen to work, they continue.
Prabhupāda: Will the medical man will say that everything happening by chance?
Harikeśa: Well, that's because his body is all right. His body fits in with the scheme of things, so it can continue. But let's say the person doesn't eat, he can't get...
Prabhupāda: They know that you have violated these rules of health, therefore you are diseased. There is no chance.