Prabhupāda: Some yogi may say whatever he likes, but what Kṛṣṇa says, we have to accept.
Indian man: In the, in the modern terminology, they say this, this technique of prāṇāyāma...
Prabhupāda: But the modern terminology, that is not, that is not a principle.
Indian man: No, but they say it is a rocket way to God.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Indian man: They say it is a rocket way to God, doing prāṇāyāma.
Prabhupāda: What is it?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: A rocket, rocket ship way to God.
Indian man: Rocket.
Prabhupāda: But we don't find so long yogis and prāṇāyāma wallas know anything about God. We have tested so many. They remain the same rascal. I have seen it. They do not... Ask him, any yogis, "What do you know about God?" Ask him. You can ask. You are press reporter. You can ask, "What do you know about God? Describe Him." So what is the rocket? Rocket means you should go immediately. But if you do not know, then what is the use of this rocket? If you do not know what is God, then what is the use of this rocket? Just like they are going to the rocket planet, moon planet. Now the American government stopped announcing this rascaldom. You know that? Yes. So if you actually have got rocket, then you must approach that you must know the thing. But simply waste your money and come back. So any sensible man will not allow this. This is good, prāṇāyāma. Rocket process, it may be. But we don't think that it is rocket process at the present age. Because in the śāstras it is said:
- kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇuṁ
- tretāyāṁ yajato makhaiḥ
- dvāpare paricaryāyāṁ
- kalau tad dhari-kīrtanāt
- (SB 12.3.52)
Indian reporter: No. They compare it to rocket only because of the two stages that a rocket has to drop. They say by doing prāṇāyāma you'll drop material stages, that you...
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but we have to see practically what he has become. Simply talking will not do.