adunandana: The reason why the western world is so much involved in science is because the religions that have been presented here in the West have cheated the people economically...
Prabhupāda: No, why cheated? The Christian religion says God created.
Devotee (4): But the followers do not practice this idea. The original idea is very nice.
Prabhupāda: No, they became over-intelligent by so-called education.
Bahulāśva: Over-intelligent?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bahulāśva: How is that?
Prabhupāda: Over-intelligence means rascal. Intelligence is good, but over-intelligence means rascal.
Bahulāśva: How does that happen, when he becomes over-intelligent?
Prabhupāda: Over-intelligent, it is sarcastically said. More than intelligent.
Bahulāśva: Oh. Speculative.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (4): What I meant to say is that the directors of these religions like the Pope and so many things, they themselves have committed so many abominable activities that people have said, "Well, why should we stay with religion? These religious leaders themselves are eating meat, they have prostitution, they are cheating the people, taking their money, living very nicely..."
Prabhupāda: But that is not religion. Why you accept the Pope as religious?
Devotee (4): No, we don't accept...
Prabhupāda: You reject. You reject. Come to us. Why do you accept these rascals as religious? That is your fault. Why should you stick to them? They cannot teach what is real religion, so let us give you.