Prabhupada: What are called these? In Hindi, it is called kankar, Indian.
Revatinandana: Pebbles?
Prabhupada: Pebbles, big. Small. Sand, sand. Yes. So you can eat that. When there is no rain... That is also eatable. The peacocks, they eat. The pigeons, they eat. Yes, the, they can eat. You have seen? They're eating. So everything is there eatable. So there is no question of overpopulation. Overpopulation is already there, anantyaya kalpate. They why do you call overpopulation? When there is already fire, why do you say there will be fire? It is already there. So, but, the restriction, eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. That eka, that eka, Krsna, He orders. He does not order actually. Just like, not every time the police has to be ordered by the superior authority to punish the criminal. They know how to punish. So the nature knows how to punish these criminals. Therefore, the scientists are finding now shortage of petrol, shortage of this, shortage... What to do? What to do? This is the position. Otherwise, there is no question of overpopulation. The supply is restricted. That is the problem. Eko yo bahunam. Because He supplies all the necessities, the supply will be restricted. As we become more and more sinful and without Krsna consciousness, they will be put into difficulties, they will be dying within the womb, they will be killed, within the womb, there will be war, there will be pestilence, there will be famine, there will be earthquake. In so many ways, we have to die. Bhutva bhutva praliyate (BG 8.19). Again, take birth, this business will go on. And ultimately, when the whole universe is annihilated, then again we take shelter in the body of Maha-Visnu and live for, in that way, without any body, for many millions of years. Again, there is creation, and then again given chance. "All right, take another chance. Be Krsna conscious."
So this is material creation. Bhutva bhutva praliyate (BG 8.19). As we have got this body, we have got the chance, not to become Krsna conscious, and if we miss, then I do not know where I am going next life. But I am not going to die, that's a fact. That will be explained in the next verse. I am not going to die. So we existed in the past, we are now existing at present, and we shall continue to exist in the future. This is the position. But how we shall exist? What kind of body, either demigod's body or dog's body or tree's body or fish's body, that will depend on my work. Or we go back to home, back to Godhead, Krsna like... We get the spiritual body like Krsna. Everything is possible.
So it is our business to see what kind of body we shall get next life. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). Actually, if we become Krsna conscious, then after giving up this body, we are no more going to accept any material body. Because spiritual body is already there. That is eternal. The spirit soul, the spiritual body, that is never vanquished. It was existing in the past, it is existing now, and it will continue to exist in the future. Because people may say, "How is that? How odd thing Krsna is speaking, that na tv evaham jatu nasam na tvam neme janadhipah." Because actually, we died. Maybe we have taken birth again, but everyone dies. How that, that we do not die?" No. It is not the body, but Krsna is speaking about the soul. Soul is ever-existing. It existed in the past, it is existing now, and it will exist. Maybe, different type of body, that is Krsna's instruction. Another thing is that the Mayavadi philosophers say that we are one. There is no "you" and "me." Everything one. So, then Krsna is defective. If Krsna says, "You, Me, all others," so it is not one. It is not homogeneous. We are all individuals. "You are individual, I am individual, and all the kings and soldiers, they are all individuals." So the Mayavadi theory that after liberation everyone becomes one, one lump sum... What is called? Homogeneous spirit. No. Then Krsna is false. The Mayavadi theory accepted, that we become one lump sum, then Krsna's theory... Not theory, Krsna's actual knowledge. Then it becomes false. And if Krsna speaks false, something defective, then where is the use of reading Bhagavad-gita? Why should we read Bhagavad-gita which is spoken by a person who is defective? No. That's not... What Krsna is speaking, that is fact. Otherwise, why Bhagavad-gita is given so importance? So, so Mayavadi philosophers, they try to interpret in a different way, " 'I' means this, 'you' means that," some... (end)