Prabhupāda: ...clean city. (break) It is not the same New Delhi as five or ten years before. Huh?
Tejās: Yes.
Prabhupāda: How long you are here?
Tejās: Five years, four and a half years.
Prabhupāda: So what do you think?
Tejās: Everything is deteriorating.
Harikeśa: Vṛndāvana is much cleaner than this, and they are supposed to be very poor.
Prabhupāda: Because in Vṛndāvana there are less rascals and here it is full of rascals. That is the difference. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇāḥ. Rascal means the nondevotees. They have no good qualification. Kuto: "Where is good qualification?" And "No, they are so civilized. They are educated." But the answer is, mano-rathena: "Whatever they may be, they are on the mental platform." Mano-rathenāsati dhāvato bahiḥ: "Because they are on the mental platform, certainly they will hover over the external energy. Therefore they have no good qualification." Bahir-artha-maninaḥ. Simply speculating on the external feature.
Ambarīṣa: Mental platform means speculation, mental platform.
Prabhupāda: That's it. Mental platform means speculation.
Harikeśa: Na sukhaṁ na paraṁ gatim.
Prabhupāda: Paraṁ gatim. They do not take instruction from the śāstra; therefore everything is failure.
Harikeśa: Nobody seems very happy in Delhi.
Prabhupāda: Neither in U.S.A. (laughter)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No one is happy in the material world.
Ambarīṣa: In America there is much more violence than there is here.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I read in the papers yesterday that the crime rate has gone up in United States.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That must. If everyone is a criminal, so how the crime rate can decrease?
Harikeśa: Everybody cheats as much as possible, on income tax and everything.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Even President Nixon had cheated on his income tax return, but they caught him later on.
Prabhupāda: No, it is not cheating. It is... The income tax department is a cheating department, so everyone tries to avoid this cheating department. That's it.