Prabhupāda: Now we are presenting through two of my scientific students, Doctor of Chemistry, that matter is, the source of matter is spirit. This is our theory. Generally they believe the life, life comes from matter...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Life comes from matter.
Prabhupāda: Matter. But we, we are presenting, "No, matter comes from life."
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Apparently. This is not appropriate. This is Vedānta. Vedānta...
Prabhupāda: Janmādyasya yataḥ.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: I said that just examine the healthy body. This material world is an excema expect(?) in the healthy body.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Material, material atmosphere means diseased condition.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Diseased condition, very negligent or diseased condition, very negligent part, forming very negligent part of the whole, this material world, where creation and dissolution is compulsory.
Prabhupāda: Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate (BG 8.19).
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Creation and the dissolution is compulsory. That is a negligent portion of the real universe.
Prabhupāda: ekāṁśena.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Otherwise, if a major portion of a body is bad, then that cannot stand. So the major portion of the universe must be healthy, wholesome. And the negligent part is the diseased portion. That is the world, where the majority lives.
Prabhupāda: One fourth part.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: The, the possession of Satan. It is under possession of Satan. Satan means having vikṛta-jñana. That is misunderstanding. Misunderstanding is perverted. Misunderstanding is set out. Understanding is there, but it is perverted.