Prabhupāda: Yes. They are spending money to save income tax. They have got enough income. So instead of giving to the income tax, they are thinking that "Why not provide some serfers(?), some drivers, some servants, and repair the house every year." In this way, spend money (laughing). It is good policy. Money's distributed to the poor instead of going to the government pocket.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's got at least thirty-five servants, and it is only father and son and daughter-in-law.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) That's all. No children even.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Prabhupāda stayed there. They gave us much, er, attention.
Prabhupāda: They are very favorable to us. Especially the father.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes, Bhogilal. I remember when I first approached him for a donation, I asked him: "Please give twenty-five thousand rupees." I was the one who was approaching him. So then he said, "I can give ten thousand." So I said, all I did is I, just I said, "Please give more." He said, "All right, twenty-five thousand." (laughter) It didn't take very much preaching, he's so kind-hearted. And his son Pranlal was also nice boy.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He's very intelligent, he knows what we are doing. His wife also, that young girl.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, very nice. They're actually a little aristocratic, I think.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They have palatial buildings in Ahmedabad, oh.
Prabhupāda: That, when I was staying there, that young girl, the daughter, she was always taking care, always taking care: "Swamiji, what do you want, what can I serve?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That was a wonderful stay. That was when Mrs. Nair surrendered. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: The Bhogilal was coming daily.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: To talk with you?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And Pranlal was offering any help that he could. And they gave our, the secretaries were also treated very nicely, they gave us each a car.
Rāmeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when I first came to this, to your movement, the first thing I was told is that Lord Caitanya's movement in this age will, like a moon, rise for ten thousand years. I was told that number, ten thousand years. Is that true?
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Rāmeśvara: And then after that, they will...
Prabhupāda: This movement will go for ten thousand years without any impediment.
Rāmeśvara: So that means increasing, because it's the nature of the spiritual energy.
Prabhupāda: It increases; you should take this opportunity. You work sincerely; it will increase, it will increase.
Rāmeśvara: Ten thousand years, there is a good opportunity to...
Prabhupāda: Many fallen souls will be delivered back to home, back to Godhead.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very encouraging.
Rāmeśvara: You once said that Christianity will die out. We will be the only religion left.
Prabhupāda: I do not remember that.
Rāmeśvara: Someone told me like that.
Prabhupāda: Christianity's already dead. We are purchasing the churches.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That means dead.
Hari-śauri: And their priests are coming to join us as well.
Prabhupāda: See, this temple, this was closed. There was no men. And now balcony. In the same place, the same countrymen. That is the proof. This building. These boys and girls and men, they are not imported from India.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They are formerly Christians and Jews.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: These demons that are trying to challenge us, they cannot stop our movement for ten thousand years.
Prabhupāda: What is their challenge? They have no, nothing to challenge. Unless they are violent. That much they can do, like demons.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That, you think that they will do that eventually?
Prabhupāda: No, now people are civilized. It is.... But they want to do it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They are thinking. So...
Prabhupāda: But on the garb of civilized person it looks odd. Especially in America when religious freedom is there. Otherwise they would have done. (break).... real peace formula, anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's rascal. This is very revolting. "Because I am not Kṛṣṇa con..., because I am a rascal?" "Yes." (laughter)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, they don't like that.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) This is too much.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even you were challenging their gurus. That they get very angry at. Sataji will always tell me, "I like your Prabhupāda very much. But he is always criticizing all of our gurus."
Rāmeśvara: Like Ramakrishna and this cheater magician.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "He calls them cheaters, rascals, rogues, in public." At all the pāṇḍāls you used to do that. Oh, they couldn't stand it.
Hari-śauri: That man that stopped me in the street...
Prabhupāda: What can I say? Kṛṣṇa says. I am simply a child, repeating the words of Kṛṣṇa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, you always tell them that. "It is not what I'm saying; Kṛṣṇa is saying." But that gets them even angrier.
Prabhupāda: We are Kṛṣṇa conscious. We are obligated to say like that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That makes them even more angry.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Actually Kṛṣṇa says: na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ (BG 7.15)—finished. They cannot bring any defamation. We can say in the court that we are simply repeating like parrot. That's all. We have pledged to become parrot of Kṛṣṇa. That's all. (end)