Prabhupāda: Whatever you may call, there are thieves, rogues and thieves. That's all.
Devotee (3): Exploiting.
Gurukṛpā: Now they're dividing up the booty, fighting over it.
Prabhupāda: That story, that some thieves stolen. Now, when they are dividing, they say, "Please honestly, religious divide." (laughs) The things are stolen, and now it is to be divided religiously. The foundation of the thing is stealing, and they are dividing in . . . Now they are making laws, morality.
Devotee (1): They have a saying, "Honor among thieves."
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) This has been named . . . (indistinct) . . ., kaitava, simply cheating. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra (SB 1.1.2). The duplicity, hypocrisy, is there completely rejected.
Gurukṛpā: Kṛṣṇa is a better cheater, though. He will cheat them in the end.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is not cheater. The Kṛṣṇa's energy is so powerful that anyone who is a cheater, he will be cheated, that's all. Automatically. (break) If you infect some disease, you'll have to suffer, automatically. It is not that the disease has to be injected. No. Because you have infected, you'll suffer. The same law is there: you have done this sinful—you'll suffer that. That is the cycle of birth and death. You have created mentality; you'll become the same animal, and you suffer. Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya (BG 13.22). (break) . . .very clear. We have seen this cloud, extraordinary.
Devotee (2): They can also . . .
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The horn. The horn(?).
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (2): So it's very dirty river.
Prabhupāda: Ah.