Śyāmasundara: Our philosophy is based first of all that there is a purpose in the universe. If to begin with, his thesis is that there's no purpose in the universe, then he can't say anything is right or wrong.
Devotee: Then what is the point of any philosophy? If there's no purpose, why should I read his philosophy? His philosophy also is meaningless.
Prabhupāda: Just to say there is no purpose?
Śyāmasundara: No. There is only existence. There is no essence.
Devotee: Then why write?
Śyāmasundara: Because it's something to do. Just like I courageously choose to write, that's all, so I must do it.
Devotee: What is...
Śyāmasundara: Ultimately yes. Even Prabhupāda stated this, too.
Prabhupāda: It is rat philosophy. He has something to do-cut everything into pieces.
Devotee: What is that?
Prabhupāda: Something to do. I have to do something. He is cutting a book into pieces.
Śyāmasundara: Jean-Paul Genet was one of his heroes—a sadist, a homosexual, a criminal. He thought very highly of him, because he said at least he has chosen something he is doing very courageously. So he got him released from jail. Now he has chosen to become a Communist, Sartre. So... (break) He is very much trouble with the government. They want to arrest him, but he is too famous. His life is (indistinct).
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, what is the actual cause of shame?
Prabhupāda: Higher consciousness.
Śyāmasundara: If I am ashamed to take my clothes off in public, why is that?
Prabhupāda: Higher consciousness. The dog has no such thing; therefore this consciousness is not developed.
Devotee: He says something about..., "You have it resolved in your mind and you don't carry it through."
Devotee (2): Śrīla Prabhupāda gave an example: if I decide to rob a bank and I don't rob the bank and I... (break)
Prabhupāda: What is next?
Śyāmasundara: Next we'll go back to Fichte, a German philosopher, then Hegel, Schopenhauer.