Prabhupāda: But Bhagavad-gītā says, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). Bhagavad-gītā says that if you understand the Kṛṣṇa consciousness philosophy, janma karma me . . . First of all, you always remember that whatever we are talking, we are talking on the Bhagavad-gītā, on the basis of Bhagavad-gītā. The Bhagavad-gītā says, janma karma me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti (BG 4.9).
If you simply understand Kṛṣṇa, what is Kṛṣṇa, then tyaktvā deham, giving up this body, you'll not have to accept another material body. This is the statement of Bhagavad-gītā. But so long you'll accept this body, material body, you'll remain imperfect. There cannot be any perfection. It may be gradation. There are 8,000,400 (sic) forms of life. There is Brahmā, and there is ant also. Both of them are living entities. But the status quo of the ant and the status quo of Brahmā is not the same, higher consciousness or mental . . .
So they're all in the material world. None of them are perfect. Between Brahmā and ant, there are millions of other living entities, 8,000,000. Not only 1,000,000; millions—8,400,000's forms of life. They're all imperfect because they have accepted this material body, either Brahmā or ant. But your perfection will come when you do not accept this material body. That is the, I mean to say, the destination of Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti (BG 4.9): "After quitting this body, he does not accept any more this material body." This, that means he, he becomes perfect. That is stated in another place, saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ. Saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ.