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If somebody is claiming that "I am brahmana," then government should force him to become actually a brahmana. That is government's duty; that is secular state. Not that "Let people go to hell. We don't care for them." That is not required

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"if somebody is claiming that" |"I am brāhmiṇ" |"then government should force him to become actually a brāhmiṇ. That is government's duty; that is secular state. Not that" |"Let people go to hell. We don't care for them" |"That is not required"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

If somebody is claiming that "I am brahmana," then government should force him to become actually a brahmana. That is government's duty; that is secular state. Not that "Let people go to hell. We don't care for them." That is not required.


Prabhupāda: Defense ministry is kṣatriya, and that is the, that is the sanction of the śāstra.

yasya hi yal-lakṣaṇaṁ
puṁso varṇābhivyañjakam
yad anyatrāpi dṛśyeta
tat tenaiva vinirdiśet.
(SB 7.11.35)

This is the statement by Nārada Muni. I shall quote the śāstra.

Guest (1): . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Just like kṣatriya. Kṣatriya's . . . guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). According to guṇa, śauryaṁ tejaḥ, yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam, īśvara-bhāvaś ca (BG 18.43). These are the kṣatriya qualities. So śāstra says if these qualities are anyatrāpi dṛśyeta, if these qualities are found somewhere else . . . suppose a śūdra, a caṇḍāla, if these qualities are found there, then he should be designated by that post, not as śūdra.

Guest (1): No. As karuna varna . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: There are many instances, but this is the injunction of the śāstra. And practically also. Suppose a man is a medical practitioner. He may be born in a brāhmiṇ family or śūdra family—nobody wants to know to which family he belongs to. If he sees that he is a medical practitioner, he has passed the M.D. examination and that he is practicing then people accept him as doctor, medical man. Nobody asks him, "Are you a brāhmiṇ? Then I make my treatment with you." Nobody asks that. So this is the śāstric injunction. Then later on this caste brāhmaṇism, śūdra-ism made the whole thing, whole Hindu culture, Vedic culture, spoiled.

Guest (1): Quite right.

Prabhupāda: That should be the point. Now it is the duty of the secular government . . . now if somebody is claiming that, "I am brāhmiṇ," then government should force him to become actually a brāhmiṇ. That is government's duty; that is secular state. Not that, "Let people go to hell. We don't care for them." That is not required.

Guest (1): Yes, but if a brāhmiṇ is not behaving . . .

Prabhupāda: If you are claiming to become a brāhmiṇ, you must act as a brāhmiṇ.

Page Title:If somebody is claiming that "I am brahmana," then government should force him to become actually a brahmana. That is government's duty; that is secular state. Not that "Let people go to hell. We don't care for them." That is not required
Compiler:Ratnavali
Created:2015-12-16, 10:04:55
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1