M. Roost: How to transcend death. And technically, by practice, kumbha (?), the kumbha, fighting, two persons are fighting, master and disciple...
Prabhupāda: (coughing) Water, little.
M. Roost: To make the problem very, very clear and by fight with arm, sword, is to see what people is able to do in front of the death. Master is coming with an assam, (a sword) and he makes like he will kill the disciple, and disciple must learn to be calm in front of the death. It is so... We can say it's a practice, a psychological practice to...
Prabhupāda: No, why the master will kill the disciple? What is this practice?
M. Roost: No, he don't kill, but he makes like he will kill, but he don't kill. Of course not.
Prabhupāda: That is another...
M. Roost: But it's like a game, we can say, to learn little by little to be the master of our ego, and finally to go through the ego. And I think it's a way, very interesting. But...
Prabhupāda: That is automatically taught in bhakti-yoga. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **. It is said, "If you can keep your master pleased, then God will be pleased." Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **. And if you make your master displeased, then you are nowhere. These are the teachings of bhakti-yoga. But if the master is such a rascal that if he asks the disciple that "You please me with sex life," then what kind of master he is? Sex life is so strong. In the school, colleges, the teachers having sex life with the students. And yogic process, aṣṭāṅga-yoga, first is saṁyama. Yama, niyama, āsana, prāṇāyāma, pratyāhāra, samādhi, like that. This is against this principle of yama, niyama.
M. Roost: Yes, and first is...
Prabhupāda: I know several yogis, so-called yogis in New York. They are having sex life with the female disciples. I know. I do not wish to name them, but I know them personally. So many. They are taking fees and having sex with the disciple and are yogis. Just see. This is going on. Brahmcārī vrate?
Nitāi: Manaḥ saṁyamya mac-cittaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Ah, manaḥ saṁyamya mac-cittaḥ: "Always thinking of Me." Viṣṇu-mūrti or Kṛṣṇa-mūrti. Then?
Nitāi: Yukta āsīta mat-paraḥ.
Prabhupāda: Ah, yukta āsīta mat-paraḥ: "Always thinking of Me." Then?
Nitāi: Yuñjann evaṁ sadātmānaṁ yogī niyata-mānasaḥ.
Prabhupāda: "In this way one who practices yoga..."
Nitāi: Śāntiṁ nirvāṇa-paramām.
Prabhupāda: "Then he gets śāntiṁ nirvāṇa."
Nitāi: Mat-saṁsthām adhigacchati.
Prabhupāda: Mat-saṁsthām. "Then he is promoted to the Brahman effulgence." That means he surpasses the material existence. Then?
Nitāi: Nāty aśnatas tu yogo 'sti.
Prabhupāda: Ah, nāty aśnataḥ. It is not that you should not eat, abstain, no. Eat very little. So?
Nitāi: Na caikāntam anaśnataḥ.
Prabhupāda: Ah. Not to eat more, not to eat less. Whatever will sustain you, you must eat.
Nitāi: Na cāti-svapna-śīlasya.
Prabhupāda: "Neither sleep very deeply nor sleep less." Then?
Nitāi: Jāgrato naiva cārjuna. Yuktāhāra-vihārasya.
Prabhupāda: Yuktāhāra-vihārasya.