Prabhupāda: Pradhāna is material ingredients, material cause.
Janārdana: Material cause.
Prabhupāda: And prakṛti...
Janārdana: Is the efficient cause.
Prabhupāda: Efficient cause.
Janārdana: That is in the Brahma-saṁhitā.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Efficient (Conversations)
Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Morning Walk -- April 28, 1973, Los Angeles:
Prabhupāda: You are simply observing the immediate cause. You do not know what is the remote cause. There are two causes, immediate cause and remote cause. Another call: "Efficient cause and..."? The two words?
Brahmānanda: Efficient cause is the ultimate.
Prabhupāda: No, remote cause.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The remote cause is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam (Bs. 5.1).
Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles:
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So the instrumental is the spiritual?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The instrumental cause...?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Efficient cause. Maybe. Which is actually acting.
Karandhara: Just like the material cause of the ocean is the rain.
Prabhupāda: Hmmm?
Karandhara: Or the material cause of the rain is the ocean. The efficient cause, the spiritual, the original cause was Kṛṣṇa because He created the material energy.
Prabhupāda: Yes. yes.
Karandhara: So the scientists research and observe the material cause, but they don't have any information of the efficient cause.
Prabhupāda: Therefore, their knowledge is insufficient. And because they are very much proud of insufficient knowledge, therefore they are fools, mūḍhāḥ. One may become proud if there is complete knowledge. But he has no complete knowledge. Still, he's proud. Therefore he's a fool. What do you think?
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Morning Walk -- January 22, 1974, Hawaii:
Prabhupāda: ..."Unless we see." But you see, but you cannot go. Your argument is, "Unless we see," but you are seeing there is another planet, so many hundred and thousands, millions of planets. But you cannot go there. That is your inefficiency. How can you say? Because your theory is "I must see," but you cannot go there. First of all, admit your inefficiency. Why you conclude, what is it called, abruptly, without seeing. Because seeing is your experience. But you cannot go and see. Why you are trying to go to the moon planet? Just to see. Similarly, there are so many other planets, but you are not efficient to go and see. How can you conclude?
Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany:
Professor Durckheim: There is a change today. The other day, a little while ago, I gave a conference. There were about a thousand doctors, physical medical doctors and psychotherapists assembled, and I told them, "Today be careful. There are two sufferings in the world. The one suffering is suffering because of lack of being efficient in the world. And they are going to look for the medical doctor or the psychotherapist in order to repair them, to repair their machine in order to be efficient. But there is another suffering, the suffering of not being one with the divine self in ourselves. And this is something quite different. Then you doctors have to be quiet and to discover in yourself something like a guru who answers this question which has nothing to do with efficiency in the world." Oh, they were very, you see, became nervous about this question.
Prabhupāda: Now, the efficiency, just like medical treatment. If you know what is the end... Āyurvedic treatment it is called nidāna, nidāna, or diagnosis. First of all, before treating a patient you first of all diagnose what is the disease. Then you can give the proper medicine. But these people do not know how to diagnose. The diagnosis is that they must realize the Supreme. That is the disease. Because they have forgotten the Supreme, they are suffering. The symptoms are different. But they are treating only for the symptoms, not for the root cause. And this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is trying to treat the patient from the root cause. They have forgotten God. Let them remember God.
Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles:
Jayatīrtha: Because the body doesn't efficiently take all the nutrients.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They can make butter. This market butter is sometimes coming from stool. (laughter)
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Morning Walk Through the BBT Warehouse -- February 10, 1975, Los Angeles:
Rāmeśvara: We have our own postage machine. We don't have to go to a post office.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Rāmeśvara: It prints out stamps.
Prabhupāda: Even letters, packages?
Rāmeśvara: Yes, anything. So it's very efficient.
Prabhupāda: What is this?
Rāmeśvara: Sometimes people order incense along with their books. Very rarely. The mail order business is now doing $100,000 worth of business every year and is always growing. It is almost doubled from last year.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you are printing these books?
Rāmeśvara: We're going to reprint them.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: 100,000 copies, with a color cover.
Prabhupāda: Nice. This, this, very nice.
Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta:
Prabhupāda: He asked him, that rascal chemist, that "If I give you the chemicals, can you manufacture life?" That time he said, "No, that I cannot say." Why do you say like that? In the beginning, in New York, that store front, the Satsvarūpa is with..., and Hayagrīva and... And you chant simply. You were also there. So this chanting is proving efficient. That is Vedic knowledge. It is not theory. Our, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is not theory or mental speculation. It is a fact.
Morning Walk -- May 10, 1975, Perth:
Jayadharma: Sometimes people may say, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that we're just trying to introduce the old caste system from India that never worked anyway.
Prabhupāda: That caste system is already there. We are also..., we have got poor class, rich class. The Communists, they have also worker class, manager class, although the Communists against class system. But I have seen, they have made this classification: worker class, manager class. Why do you make this? That is efficiency. Leader class, follower class. Otherwise there will be chaos. This is natural.
Morning Walk -- October 9, 1975, Durban:
Prabhupāda: (break)...very broad. (break) ...ask him about swimming, why they cannot swim all through like the fish. They are defeated.
Indian man: They can't swim like the fish.
Prabhupāda: Therefore they are defeated.
Indian man: They have to put the skins on, I mean the rubber.
Prabhupāda: That I am pointing out, that they are less efficient than the fish. Even a small fish, you will find, he is enjoying, but he cannot. So why they are proud of becoming more intelligent than the fishes? Where is that intelligence?
Indian man: Uh huh. Well, I thought it was a good sport, you know, to swim.
Prabhupāda: No, no. It may be good sport, but you cannot enjoy it. After some time you have to give it up. The fish does not. Therefore fish is more intelligent than this man.
Indian man: On a rainy day is it possible to go swimming? On a rainy day... Some people say you mustn't go near water on a rainy day.
Prabhupāda: No, no, I am not speaking in detail. But by practical experience we can see that these men are not as efficient as the small fish. That is my point. They have advanced in civilization, so many scientists' brain, but they are not enough intelligent more than the fish. That is my point. Am I right or wrong?
Devotee (4): Right. Jaya.
Morning Walk -- December 10, 1975, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: "So that's all right. Have you shown anyone your universal form amongst so many, your disciples? Have you shown?" The next question should be like that.
Indian man: He never asked. I was hearing tape in one life member's house.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no, if... You learn that, "Have you shown ever your universal form to any one of your disciples?"
Indian man: There was not such intelligent person to ask this.
Prabhupāda: That is the... Say.
Indian man: So we have to ask that. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: If he says, "No, none of my students are efficient," "Then why you are preaching? If you cannot make any one of your students as efficient, then why you are preaching, wasting your time?" No, no, these rascal, they, their face should not be seen even. They are so fallen.
Indian man: But now they all afraid from your stick.
Prabhupāda: Stick?
Indian man: Prabhupāda, they all thought many times that "Prabhupāda he criticize us." You know, they say. We said, "Yes, you are made to be criticized."
Devotee (3): Your stick is Bhagavad-gīta As It Is.
Prabhupāda: They say? They say?
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Morning Walk -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur:
Jayapatāka: Actually these places are very far from water. We have to put some other line to make it very efficient. Now they're just taking by bucket.
Prabhupāda: No, you can join some pipeline. Make a water storge, and from pipeline it will be supplied everywhere. Make water storage on the roof, on the roof.
Conversation with News Reporters -- March 25, 1976, Delhi:
Hari-śauri: Have you got that film? That book film?
Yadubara: I don't have the projector here, Prabhupāda. That suitcase is not here.
Prabhupāda: So if we invite them to see it, that how they are helping efficiently with latest machine.... Therefore it has been possible. Otherwise while in India with great hardship I could publish three books only.
Reporter (1): They are very beautifully printed.
Reporter (5): Where did the money come from to print such lavish editions of your books?
Prabhupāda: The money comes.... We are selling books daily.
Room Conversation -- July 27, 1976, London:
Jayatīrtha: In our Vancouver farm, because we had machinery, we were able to put more land under cultivation in the first year than they had in New Vrindaban after so many years. They were very efficient.
Bhagavān: Thing is, we should not become dependent on machine.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhagavān: This unemployment is to their discredit. In the karmis' society the unemployment is a great discredit, now people sitting idle.
Prabhupāda: There will be great catastrophe. The unemployment will increase, and people will be very dissatisfied with the.... Especially the black. They will create havoc. This is artificial. They are increasing the production of tire tube and lid. So who will purchase? Nobody lives in the tire tube. Therefore unemployment. So therefore reduce production. You cannot go on increasing. You very much trade this tire tube and so many artificial.... It is very artificial civilization. If you produce.... (break) Here so far milk and food grains are concerned, whatever sumptuously you want to eat, eat. Balance you can keep stock. The milk can be converted into ghee, then keep stock, and the grains can be stocked. Whenever you like, you just grind the grains and have to eat, halava.
Bhagavān: It's very ecstatic.
Prabhupāda: If you have got excess, you can distribute free prasadam. "Come on." You make friends.
Evening Darsana -- September 1, 1976, Delhi:
Prabhupāda: They spend so much money for the roadways, still it is not good.
Indian man (3): Draining is different levels arising water (indistinct) in excessive in quantity, and the natural drains are not efficient enough to take it out. I was told that...
Prabhupāda: There is no sufficient outlet.
Indian man (3): Yes. But some of those āśrama, Mathurā, it's very deep, that four feet water in the āśramas. Three-four feet water.
Prabhupāda: Within the āśramas?
Indian man (3): And temple.
Pradyumna: Our temple is all right. Raman Reti is not flooded where we are. It's almost up to Fogel Ashram in the back, Yamunā, but it has not come to our Raman Reti.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Roof Conversation -- January 5, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: Fifty years before, when I was in Allahabad, 1920's, there was Kumbhamela. Then forty lakhs people came, fifty years ago.
Dr. Patel: With poor transport then. That transport was not so efficient as it is today, no? More trains and more...
Prabhupāda: No, the Bombay Mail was there, and I think this Kashi Express was not there.
Room Conversation -- February 12, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: Where? Within our campus or outside?
Jayapatākā: That would be a separate area. Of course, in that vast city project there was enough room for different quarters where one place brahmacārīs could stay, other place, families. Just like now it's actually getting overcrowded for the handlooms. We should have a separate, one big handloom place. That would be more efficient.
Prabhupāda: Where you have?
Jayapatākā: Where... Just the place would have to be... Their place is a bit irregular. Seeing the ultimate plan, we have to find out one place. It would be in this area somewhere. Now they're keeping records of how much is spent on agriculture, and how much is received. So what is the profit or loss, that can be ascertained. And actually that's not such a threat because I know that many of the things he is doing by contract. If at some time we need outside laborer for, say, harvest time, we need to harvest—so we pay them ten rupees or twenty rupees to harvest one bighā. So there is no question of labor. That is the contract.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Room Conversation -- February 17, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: Do that. Think deeply, over and over again, and fight. What is your seeing? Useless. What you can see? You cannot see beyond this wall. Does it mean there is nothing? Why you depend on your seeing, rascal? That means brainless. So I take it, it is good opportunity for describing our whole philosophy.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kṛṣṇa's arrangement.
Prabhupāda: You don't take it otherwise. Rather, prove yourself efficient in this subject matter. This is a trial examination for this knowledge.
Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Should be checked. That's nice.
Satsvarūpa: We made a resolution regarding improvement for our GBC meeting that next year all the agenda topics should be submitted by the GBC man to the three GBC officers thirty days previous to the annual meeting. After analyzing the proposals, the officers will present a number of topics to different committees, who will present them at the meeting.
Hṛdayānanda: The purpose of that was to try to discuss things more before the meeting so the meeting can be done more quickly and efficiently.
Prabhupāda: Subject matter. This is for subject matter committee. Subject, committee of subject.
Room Conversation-Recent Mail -- July 14, 1977, Vrndavana:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says, "We have a great debt to repay you and we are perplexed how to repay. At least Your Divine Grace may stay as long as we try to repay till the debt we owe to you. I think if we work hard and preach and the world recognizes this movement, then you may want to stay here longer."
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's a fact.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "I am constantly filling this into the minds of the members of the Library Party. We are now emphasizing your books as a library of Encyclopedia of Vedic Knowledge, and I am herewith enclosing reviews from the biggest Marathi, Gujarati, and Sindhi scholars."
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is very nice. He has done quite efficiently.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, there's another thing. This whole thing, these are new reviews I'm going to read to you.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
| Page Title: | Efficient (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Visnu Murti |
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