Karandhara: So it's a great risk.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Māṁ saḥ. Mām, mām means "me." Saḥ means "he". "He eats me." That is meat.
Bali Mardana: In Nepal, they kill thousands of black goats and buffaloes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But never they kill cows.
Bali Mardana: No.
Prabhupāda: Yes. We shall go this way? (break)
Prajāpati: They had a great difficulty. Because of poor fund of knowledge in the śāstras, they formed doctrines, so many doctrines, where groups of men got together and said. "This is what we believe." And they have so many doctrines. Many people killed, fighting over these doctrines, and even the intelligent people will simply, instead of trying to find out about God, simply try to clarify these doctrines more and more.
Prabhupāda: As soon as you say there are so many doctrines, that means that all of them are rascals. All of them are rascals. Otherwise, why there should be so many doctrines.
Umāpati: There's only one doctrine.
Bali Mardana: God is one.
Prabhupāda: Yes, God is one. God is good. That is only one doctrine. And why there should be different doctrines? That means those who have created different doctrines means they're all rascals.
Karandhara: Because they deviated from the central point and became preoccupied with their own speculation.
Prabhupāda: That's all. That, that is not the process. First of all you have to know that God is unlimited. You are limited. How can you approach Him with your doctrine? Because you are limited, your ideas, your thinking, is limited. So how you can approach the unlimited? That is foolishness.
Karandhara: These doctrines are simply veiled atheism.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Karandhara: Rationalized atheism.
Prabhupāda: They are called kutarkī. Kutarkī. "Bad logicians. Bad logicians." Kutarkī.
Prajāpati: So much of it is based on politics, also, Prabhupāda. They...
Prabhupāda: Yes, They, they, they're everything, motivated. So therefore they're imperfect. I have got... Just like this United Nations. They have gone there for becoming united, but they remain disunited forever. Just see. All the best men go there for becoming united, but forever they will remain disunited. Just see the practical. Because they're all imperfect, rascals, motivated. How they can be united? They cannot be united.